Quattrophenia Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Just about to pick the S4 Avant up... has manual transmission and am wondering if one of you could confirm whether the manual S4s (B7) are 40:60 front/rear power setup and the tips are 50:50? Seem to remember ready this somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDiAvant Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 No the B7 S4 is 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrophenia Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Ignore my previous post. I've just been digging on the interweb and answered my own question... Found this on Wikipedia under Audi S4: "The B7 platform S4 is the most recent version of the vehicle, having debuted in late 2005. Although Audi classifies it as a new car, the differences between it and the outgoing B6 S4 are primarily cosmetic. Audi has, however, made a few notable changes, including adding new springs and dampers to the suspension and re-calibrating the quattro system to maintain a 40:60 front-to-rear torque split under normal conditions. The system is continuously adjustable though, and the torque split can change depending on driving conditions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLiiX Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Yep, It will be a weapon!!! I wonder if you will really notice the different split of power? You are buying my dream car! If I had to buy one car it would be a B7 S4 (Avant) When do you get it Quattrophenia? What spec and colour etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrophenia Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Yeaj - looking forward to it - collect it at 2.30 this afternoon and am trading in a 2005 Boxster S (987). Spec is really good: See attached (above). Sprint blue, black leather recaros, manual, nav plus, tv, sunroof, mem seats, diming mirrors, cd, cruise, armrest with phone, tinted windows. Oh... and a tow bar - gotta get that off! Time is now dragging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLiiX Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Just as well you got the S4 with all those extras on it! What a MACHINE! Remember your sleeping bag, cause youll love it so much you won't want to get out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Towbar is interesting - IIRC there is/was no tow-bar option for the S4 as Audi did not recommend towing due to increased load/heat from the engine / oil-cooling caused by towing. You might want to check this if you're buying from an Audi dealer. As for the 60:40 split I thought that was only RS4's at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrophenia Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 This is a factory fit towbar and you is available as an option on the Audi UK website under A4 Accessories, Towing.... already checked it out - is possible to order fixed and removable towbars - mine's removeable - see attached pick above. Have asked them to remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrophenia Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Have found more info about the 40:60 split on B7 S4s: http://www.forbesautos.com/reviews/2007/audi/s4/model-update.html http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Overview-d31-Audi-S4-Avant.html http://carguide123.com/articles/2005_Audi_S4_Line,_Including_the_S4_Sedan,_S4_Avant_Wagon,_and_S4_Cabriolet_Convertible.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDiAvant Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 That is very surprising My Manual B7 S4 Avant feels like 50:50, now the RS4 that I had on loan for a month felt like 40:60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrophenia Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Could be because of the extra weight up front on S4 vs RS4..? Anyway - will let you know my thoughts in a few hours when I collect - will be able to tell coming from a Porker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDiAvant Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Well I Just phoned Audi customer services, and they say the S4 has 50:50. Only the RS4 has 40:60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Could be because of the extra weight up front on S4 vs RS4..? Anyway - will let you know my thoughts in a few hours when I collect - will be able to tell coming from a Porker. [/ QUOTE ] I came from a Boxster S (986) to the S4, obviously they're totally different types of cars, so there are some obvious differences, notably handling, where the S4 feels very nose heavy and rather ponderous compared to the Porsche. There was surprisngly very little discernable difference in performance / acceleration. The noise is completely different, but both sounded great. The S4 uses a lot more fuel (and oil come to that). Finally the S4's wet grip, is in another league to that of the Porsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Ignore my previous post. I've just been digging on the interweb and answered my own question... Found this on Wikipedia under Audi S4: "The B7 platform S4 is the most recent version of the vehicle, having debuted in late 2005. Although Audi classifies it as a new car, the differences between it and the outgoing B6 S4 are primarily cosmetic. Audi has, however, made a few notable changes, including adding new springs and dampers to the suspension and re-calibrating the quattro system to maintain a 40:60 front-to-rear torque split under normal conditions. The system is continuously adjustable though, and the torque split can change depending on driving conditions." [/ QUOTE ] I take what Wikipedia states with a large pinch of salt. It once proclaimed that my team, Forest, had signed two players and had allocated them squad numbers. Alas these players never signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 There's been a LOT of debate about 40:60 or 50:50 on audiworld too. Seems that Audi themselves put out quite a lot of incorrect press releases when the B7 S4 was introduced - which is why a lot of press articles and websites say the B7 S4 is 40:60. Audi have now clarified that ONLY the RS4 is 40:60, both the B6 S4 and B7 S4 are 50:50 (As are all the A4 quattros). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rottenbend Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 [ QUOTE ] There's been a LOT of debate about 40:60 or 50:50 on audiworld too. Seems that Audi themselves put out quite a lot of incorrect press releases when the B7 S4 was introduced - which is why a lot of press articles and websites say the B7 S4 is 40:60. Audi have now clarified that ONLY the RS4 is 40:60, both the B6 S4 and B7 S4 are 50:50 (As are all the A4 quattros). [/ QUOTE ] Spot on - Wikipedia is wrong - now there's a surprise . I sent them an e-mail a while back but they haven't done anything about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 So... is the A5 quattro definitely 40:60 then, or have Audi lied about that too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 [ QUOTE ] So... is the A5 quattro definitely 40:60 then, or have Audi lied about that too? [/ QUOTE ] Yes it is. So that would then make: RS4, A5, S6, S8, QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ7, R8 as the only 40:60 cars. This sort of mis-information comes from the idiot journalists who even said that the new S3 is 40:60 when everyone knows it is a front wheel drive car normally. Oh, no its the Torsen vs Haldex debate again............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quattrophenia Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Collected the S4 yesterday and went for a blast last night. Have to say everything Tizzy said about coming from a Boxster S to an S4 is spot on (and expected I might add). Very different cars to drive - awesome brute force power & traction though! The Goodyear F1s are great. Will post some pics asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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