Shadowman Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Unlike the golf which in 3door looks a bland design to me especially the rear quarters a typical german blandness you can almost mistake it for a polo. Its why i went for a 5door GTI apart from its more practical. [/ QUOTE ] For me, the cleanness of the 3-door rear quarter as the light shimmers off the crease line, and as it hunkers down over the shiny 18" Monza's is a vision of beauty! It's the clean, unfussy image of the Golf that appealed to me. Some may call it bland - I call it "classy and understated"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collease Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I must admit that i have actually gone right off the golf now that my brother in law has one sitting on the drive. They always looked great in pictures and when walking around them in the stealers lot. But now i see it everyday the spark has gone. It just looks bulky and un apealing to me. I like the more square dated lines of the Skoda much more and after living with one in the drive for several years i still like the look of them. On the quality question i agree Audi and VW seem to have a higher standard but to be honest i'm not that fussed if my plastic looks cheap as long as the car goes well and i enjoy driving it. Each to their own i say. Enjoy what you buy and for the reasons you buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordlad Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Its Cherie Blair V Beyonce [/ QUOTE ] nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Well, I know the Golf is old and doesn't have quite the tush of the Octavia but I think that's a slightly harsh comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TagnuT Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 You pays your money and make a choice. Its like the old thing of Panasonic V Technic. Both made by the same Corp. But did it sound better? If I couldn't have afforded my Golf I would have had a good look at the Skoda or the Leon FR. But I liked the GOLF. Yes it was a lot more money. But I wanted the Golf and true I do look over my shoulder as I walk away. just checking if the headlights have turned off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Its Cherie Blair V Beyonce [/ QUOTE ] nuff said [/ QUOTE ] ....I'm surprised, oxfordlad, I was convinced you would have preferred Beyonce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Well, I know the Golf is old and doesn't have quite the tush of the Octavia but I think that's a slightly harsh comparison. [/ QUOTE ] James that sartorial razor sharp wit of yours will elevate you to heady heights of official the TSN "Pub Landlord" of the year award,if you manage to keep your delivery as sharp & concise as that Red your digital library of "Top Totty" never ceases to amaze me............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 It would be a pretty empty pub, I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Beyonce gets my vote every time [/ QUOTE ] id rather have shakira after seeing the Beautiful Liar video with them both in. I know many people who have traded from Audi's, BMWs and VWs into skoda's and got better reliability and aftersales service because of it and never regretted doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Just for you, Geoff, and to maintain my reputation for a library of 'Top Totty' (in fact just Google on a fast Mac system), here's the lovely Shakira: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Feckin' hell RR! I just wasn't expecting that pic of SHAKIRA, SHAKIRA. It took my....breath away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordlad Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 RR - the cheek... But that Cherie, bet she goes lol I'd have said my GTI is more of a Scarlett Johansson YUM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsy Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I'd have said my GTI is more of a Scarlett Johansson YUM! [/ QUOTE ] that somehow lost something in translation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordlad Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Damn, he is good! "I like you, but you are dangerous" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahoo Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I'd have said my GTI is more of a Scarlett Johansson [/ QUOTE ] I think of Charlize Theron every time I look at my GTI. Mind you, I think of her whaterver I'm looking at. Hubba, hubba . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd have said my GTI is more of a Scarlett Johansson YUM! [/ QUOTE ] that somehow lost something in translation... [/ QUOTE ] ....To help you translate: She was stunning in "Lost In Translation", especially in the opening sequences. I must say I could well relate to Bill Murray in that movie - He gave me hope as an older guy who had recently divorced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordlad Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 good pic I always think she looks looks a little bit like my GF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1MAC Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Plus depreciation is one point to consider!! [/ QUOTE ] Please don't get on that bandwagen. % values of depreciation is the statistics way of fooling people to buy expensive cars. making them think they loose less due to % when its £notes LOSS people should be looking at. Work out the £ numbers of the % value of what YOU paid is lost over 3years compared to the GTI % of what you pay it may suprise you. A high %loss of a low number = less than a low %loss of a high number In other words a high % of retained value of a high price car can often equal or be less than a low % retained value of a low priced car. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely spot on It is a major fallacy that you will save a fortune by buying a 'premium' car with low seeming % depn figures like a VW and the same with Audi/BMW etc. It works sometimes in a more rarefied atmosphere with certain in demand models, but if you actually do the sums in the real world, the difference between 'premium' and 'non-premium' is small at best and might actually go in favour of the 'non-premium'. My guess would be that the actual money losses on the GTI and vRS would be about the same after 3 years (although I don't know looking at the tumbling GTI values thread) but you would have lost 3 years of interest/return on the £5k+ additional it costs to buy the VW. Whether you think that's a price worth paying is an entirely different subject but the money argument is usually quite plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Just for you, Geoff, and to maintain my reputation for a library of 'Top Totty' [/ QUOTE ] http://musicbox.sonybmg.com/video/shakira/?bcpid=18617174&bclid=18584616&bctid=561041049 That may take it to the liar video with Beyonce & shakira. Damb thats so off topic. vRS and the GTI are both nice cars. Well had to say something on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Just to show my analogy of: Blair V Beyonce was in no way biased............and my TT collection has a long way to go to rival RR's Skoda VRS could really be an option................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted April 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Coming home from the TSN meet today along fast 3-laner, a VRS tailgated me, so I pulled over and then followed him....faster and faster and faster....until I decided it could get both silly and dangerous and I let him get on with it to then see him severely cross two lanes of traffic and exit - Not the best example of good driving. Anyway, the point is that the VRS was bouncing all over the place - Poor suspension for fast driving imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1MAC Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 While I could envisage the vRS having a slightly inferior (maybe - depends on what you want) suspension set-up on it, possibly forced by VW, I would imagine that if you followed a GTI at similarly 'interesting' speeds then you would also see a lot of movement. The price you pay for having a supple suspension I'm afraid. Now, if you followed something like a Civic Type R, you would see less movement than either, although you would pay for it by bouncing up & down quite a bit (assuming you were on public roads). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted April 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I would imagine that if you followed a GTI at similarly 'interesting' speeds then you would also see a lot of movement. The price you pay for having a supple suspension I'm afraid. [/ QUOTE ] ....I was surprised at the amount the Octavia bounced - My car wasn't bouncing like that - It neither felt that way and neither was it evident from my rear view mirror. It might have been just that particular VRS, I don't know but it was almost alarming.....Body in the boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 The body movement when on fifth gear on the track iirc could have been topgear (not the backwards one the other one) was no worse than the GTI. IMHO its all down to the driver if he/she does not know how to drive and keeps messing the weight distribution/braking/accelerating and turning into corners out then any car can be made to look like this. I have played with many impreza's down country roads in a 12+ year old alfa 164 3.0 with worn out suspension and seen this happen many times the scooby's are all over the place bouncying and moving about were the wornout suspentioned alfa is sitting flat due to knowing how to drive it. Suprises many people but you never tell them its there crap driving you tell them its there crap expensive car. If your talking the complete car bouncing about also knowing as hopping in modified circles that can be a sign of too hard a suspension as the suspension is not moving the car is. Going faster often does not help it either as the wheels spend more time in the air than in contact with the imperfect ground. Down country road in Durham i see many modified car and civic type Rs bouncing at high speed like this. Theres a great video of two GTIs a shadowblue 3 door and a red 5 door going round a track it actually shows how much the suspension moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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