Dave Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 How easy is it to take a 1.8T 180bhp to 225bhp?? is it just the engine managment system or is there more involved? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Well i have been reading a bit about this recently and it depends on the engine version. Apparently you can have some 1.8Ts with a K03 turbo and some with a K03s. As i understand the engines with a K03 you can get to around the 210bhp mark with safely just with a remap, beyond that you need turbo, intercoolers, maybe change in compression ratio, etc. Engines with K03s appear to be able to get to aroudn 230bhp with just the remap, from what I can gather the K03s is a K03 turbo housing with K04 internals, hence a little stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drillslinger Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Yeah, the K03S is supposedly a K04 Compressor side, mated to the std K03 Exhaust side But I've yet to see anything showing for sure which engine codes got the K03 or the K03S. Some folks will say that all 1.8T's with either DBW or VVT have the K03S, but I know my ARX engine has VVT, but am doubting that I have a K03S That said, a straight remap took me from 150hp to 210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Well apparently most of the 1.8T New Beetles have a K03s and remaps regularly give 230bhp. But I remember talking to Danny at RSD who was explaining that the K03 Oettinger do not tune past 210bhp because it would then exceeed it design tollerances for speed of rotation ,etc in accordance with TUV cerification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drillslinger Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Hmmm, funny, as there was nothing mentioned to me when I had her remapped Although that COULD explain why I had to take her back in. The Tech told me the turbo was making more boost, quicker, than the std remap was written for I just wish I could find out for SURE Oh well, anyway, it doesn't take much to get the 1.8T to around 225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s8n Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 The 225hp engines have K04 turbos, lower compression ratio (9.0 to 1) and of course different engine management. Also, the injectors are larger 380cc I believe, the MAF is different too (same maf as the VR6 in the 225hp) there are some other changes but I cant remember now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerj Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 So does anyone know what turbo the 190 has got i.e. in the A4 S Line Presume its just a 180 which Audi has remapped very slightly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS4_Barry Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 [ QUOTE ] So does anyone know what turbo the 190 has got i.e. in the A4 S Line Presume its just a 180 which Audi has remapped very slightly ! [/ QUOTE ] Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerj Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So does anyone know what turbo the 190 has got i.e. in the A4 S Line Presume its just a 180 which Audi has remapped very slightly ! [/ QUOTE ] Yup [/ QUOTE ] Clear and to the point, how I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS4_Barry Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Just tellin it like it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisg Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Sorry Barry, I do not think thart is correct. 180 bhp engines are 150s with slightly better heads and a slight remap. I have first hand experience of 150 bhp chipped to 190 and a 180 to 208bhp and that was the tops. Both have KO3 turbos. I'm sure I still have the rolling road graphs. RSD have told me that 190 bhp( with two intercoolers) have KO3s turbos ( KO3 exhaust and a KO4 impeller). These engines can go to 215/ 220 ish but really need larger injectors to reach 230 bhp ( Oettinger do a 230bhp including chip injectors and a new inlet pipe ) I'm tempted with my new S Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drillslinger Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Hmm, unsure of my Turbo, but my 150 ARX engine went to 210 with just the Oettinger remap I believe that where the extra hp is coming in from older 150 engines is in that, the newer ones have VVT and DBW which can be more finely tuned with the remap Now if you know somebody who can tell me for sure that my ARX has a K03S, then I'd gladly shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brn7y Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Is the 190 S-Line single or Duel Intercooler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quattroboy Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 I know your post was a couple of weeks ago but I've only just spotted it. Apparently according to a chap at Revo I contacted, you'll get 210bhp from a 180 with a straight re-map. To get 221bhp you need the 4bar setting which requires the Fuel Pressure Regulator to be changed to that of a 225bhp S3 or TT (VAG part# 078133534C). I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Well a few people on the newbeetle forum seem to be getting around the 230bhp mark with a remap of the 150 engine in the beetle (has the K03s turbo) and this I understand is just through a remap - most seem to have been jabbasport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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