DB_82 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Anyone with a Stage 2 supercharger here? Can you give me a rough idea what this does to fuel economy? I know its not going to be great! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Well believe it or not on long runs I get about 36-37mpg (sitting at 80 on the motorway with cruise). However when you stamp on the loud pedal your mpg drops quite quickly! Around town it's about 17-19, and on a thrash it can get down to 13-15. I think it's quite reasonable for the performance gain. And Hello by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 DeckedR32 has one, and Helfinger used to as well - have a seach through previous posts edit to say: and he beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_82 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Cheers guys, got the opportunity to buy a stage 2 R32, still going to use it to drive to work in though. Not sure if its a good idea or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Welcome to Tyresmoke DB Depending on how far and what kind of traffic, it may be a bit of a killer as a daily driver, but I don't know anyone who's bought an R32 for it's economy! I used to average 24 mpg long term, but it would get down to 20-21 with a daily commute, so buying a supercharged car will only add to your enjoyment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Oh yes - forgot to say Welcome to Tyresmoke Do you have any more details about the car - is it one that has been on eBay recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_82 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Cheers for the welcome guys! Its on Pistonheads : http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/242307.htm I currently drive a 270 hp focus rs but am looking to change as i've had it 3 years. The MPG isnt great on this i normally get 55-60 miles from £10 petrol. (Not sure what this is in MPG) Really the car i want is a MKV R32 but i would have to put up a lot of money with my car. This one on Pistonheads would only cost me a couple of grand. Not sure what to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan32 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Welcome to TSN. Great initials by the way - same as me! My only concern with buying and running a supercharged R32 would be the reliability issues. I appreciate the VF kits are about as good as it gets in FI terms but there will always be snags and problems with a car that was never designed with supercharger in mind. Have a look on vortex.com as there are a lot more supercharged and turbocharged Rs over there, and that will give you an idea as to what to look for. The other concern would be finding a local specialist who can look after it and who understands not only the R but the VF kits also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Welcome to TSN. Great initials by the way - same as me! My only concern with buying and running a supercharged R32 would be the reliability issues. I appreciate the VF kits are about as good as it gets in FI terms but there will always be snags and problems with a car that was never designed with supercharger in mind. Have a look on vortex.com as there are a lot more supercharged and turbocharged Rs over there, and that will give you an idea as to what to look for. The other concern would be finding a local specialist who can look after it and who understands not only the R but the VF kits also. [/ QUOTE ] I totally agree, I had a couple of issues with the kit when it was first installed but having spoken with users in the UK and the US everything has now been sorted. In actual fact it wasn't the kit, it was parts of the car that were worn out. You also need to ensure the car is running 100% before the kit goes on. If you can get someone local to you that will service the kit/car you'll be fine. After the initial install it needs a tweak here and there, but once it's bedded in your golden with a big grin! After having the kit installed and seeing how it's installed I think I could fit it fairly easily and I'm no mechanic, so if anything were to go wrong, I think I could sort it (provided I had all the tools to hand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Great initials by the way - same as me! [/ QUOTE ] Don't reckon he's got the same surname "Bollox" as you though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N3WOB Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan32 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Dan Bollox. Sounds like a great pron star name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Isn't your "real" pron star name supposed to be a combination of your first pet's name and your mother's maiden name. The fact that my first name would be "Sebastian" wants me to not take it any further... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_82 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Welcome to TSN. Great initials by the way - same as me! My only concern with buying and running a supercharged R32 would be the reliability issues. I appreciate the VF kits are about as good as it gets in FI terms but there will always be snags and problems with a car that was never designed with supercharger in mind. Have a look on vortex.com as there are a lot more supercharged and turbocharged Rs over there, and that will give you an idea as to what to look for. The other concern would be finding a local specialist who can look after it and who understands not only the R but the VF kits also. [/ QUOTE ] I totally agree, I had a couple of issues with the kit when it was first installed but having spoken with users in the UK and the US everything has now been sorted. In actual fact it wasn't the kit, it was parts of the car that were worn out. You also need to ensure the car is running 100% before the kit goes on. If you can get someone local to you that will service the kit/car you'll be fine. After the initial install it needs a tweak here and there, but once it's bedded in your golden with a big grin! After having the kit installed and seeing how it's installed I think I could fit it fairly easily and I'm no mechanic, so if anything were to go wrong, I think I could sort it (provided I had all the tools to hand). [/ QUOTE ] So what sort of 0-60 times do you think you are getting with the kit? The supercharger was fitted 7000 miles ago and was fitted by these guys http://www.vag-tuner.com/ Seem like a reputable company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 [ QUOTE ] So what sort of 0-60 times do you think you are getting with the kit? The supercharger was fitted 7000 miles ago and was fitted by these guys http://www.vag-tuner.com/ Seem like a reputable company? [/ QUOTE ] Errrr, It may be ok, but I have heard horror stories about Regal! I've heard of new engines being required, lost ECU's, damage etc. I’ve got to admit everything I have heard has been word of mouth and I don't have any first hand experience. I'd take a good look and find out the history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan32 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Isn't your "real" pron star name supposed to be a combination of your first pet's name and your mother's maiden name. The fact that my first name would be "Sebastian" wants me to not take it any further... [/ QUOTE ] Flipper Nye doesn't have the same ring as Dan Bollox It might be worth looking at VF website to find out who they recommend fitting their kits over here, and then talking with them directly. Would also help knowing who your local specialist would be and starting to build a relationship with them. I know APS have done VF conversions before but its probably not something they do everday and may not be local enough for you. There used to be NSRacing in London somewhere but not sure they are still about. As Decked has said, its not so much the kits, but who installed it, how good the original engine was, how well it has been maintained and upgraded (new software revisions, upgraded components as and when made available etc), and how the car has been driven since installation. Boring as it may seem, if it was my money, I'd research the hell out of this first. Don't forget, you are buying a heavily modified car which could bite you in the a$$ if its a wrong un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 [ QUOTE ] So what sort of 0-60 times do you think you are getting with the kit? The supercharger was fitted 7000 miles ago and was fitted by these guys http://www.vag-tuner.com/ Seem like a reputable company? [/ QUOTE ] You'll hit 60 in the high 4s or low 5s. VAG Tuners is a trading name of Regal in Southampton. They import a load of stuff for VAG cars, but I know of at least three R32s that they had in, fitted the kit to and the cars just wouldn't work. All three ended up going to AmD in Bicester (before they went bust and became part of Big Boys Toys in Essex) to get sorted out and Adam (tech director at AmD) commented that the fitting on all three was pretty poor. My direct, personal experience with Regal is that they don't really seem to know what they're talking about and they never return your calls. I'm not saying don't do it - but I am saying "buyer beware". Just make sure you do your research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeanBob Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 The fuel economy on the SC kit really depends on how you drive. If you're doing a lot of town driving, it's pretty poor, but cruising on the motorway, I'm not really getting a whole lot less than I did before. Remember that the SC provides linear boost (and therefore a linear increase in fuel to match). Thus at low revs, the difference in fueling probably isn't all that different, however, if you sit at 5000rpm a lot, you're gonna use proportionally a lot more fuel than the stock car. The computer is probably slightly off with it's calculations too...i.e. the actually mpg figure is probably slightly less as the kit includes a slighter higher pressure fuel pump, thus for every 'tick' sent to the computer, you'll actually have injected a little more fuel than it thinks. Otherwise, the kit is amazing. I've ran StgI for almost 2 years, and apart from the intake hose blowing off once, I haven't really had much in the way of issues, other than the sore face from smiling too hard... My problem now is what to do as I'm thinking about selling the car. As it runs well at the moment, I'm a little concerned about taking the kit back off (and resultant labour cost) that may then result in a car that might not run well. Hard decision of what would be easier to sell : 'Modified Stage I R32' vs 'Previously modified R32' & 'Used VF kit' b0b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubzter Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 A used but looked after supercharger kit sounds pretty tempting to me. I'm toying with the idea of going FI on mine either that I trade the car in for something a bit more special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbletop Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Likewise dubzter. After the recent rolling road fiasco, I've got the little piggy bank out and am filling him up for a stage 2 - hopefully next year. Brakes come first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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