Tarmac_Terrorist Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 [ QUOTE ] This is an easy one. Dissabled poeple need a radar key to get into dissabled toilets in service areas. airports etc. Use the same key to either shut of a parking proximity alarm or lower dissabled bay posts. [/ QUOTE ] Would I be able to buy one of those keys on ebay if that went ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 What pisses me off, is the fact that they have 8 m&c spaces and 30 disabled spaces. Most of the time when I go there, the disabled spaces are largely empty, the m&c spaces are rammed and we have to park elsewhere! This is at Sainsbury's. However, they used to have a duck patrol man issuing reminder tickets, but I have not seen him in the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32Ash Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 [ QUOTE ] What pisses me off, is the fact that they have 8 m&c spaces and 30 disabled spaces. Most of the time when I go there, the disabled spaces are largely empty, the m&c spaces are rammed and we have to park elsewhere! [/ QUOTE ] The difference is that a disabled person will have limited mobility and possibly a wheelchair to contend with, so spaces being available for them is a priority. People with children can quite easily park somewhere else other than right outside the entrance without it being such a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Try John Lewis at High Wycombe - the number of disabled bays is staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I'm all for measures designed to prevent the abuse of such parking spaces. However, the sort of people that do abuse them are the sort of people that would get even more abusive and refuse to pay the fine. As I understand it, these types of fines are legally unenforceable anyway. There's nothing stopping you not paying and just driving off. Will they then go as far as monitoring vehicles/drivers and banning them from the store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 With so many people getting state bens. for being able to work through sickness its only logical they need parking bays. They go every day to spend your hard earned monies (taxes) to buy stuff. Asda is there Harrods, they are VIPS, George is are rare one off designer gear only avalible at Harrods, i mean Asda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacake Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 [ QUOTE ] People with children can quite easily park somewhere else other than right outside the entrance without it being such a big deal. [/ QUOTE ] You perhaps misunderstand why the parent and child spaces are there. It's so that the parent doesn't have to stand the trolley with their kid in the roadway, and has room to get them in and out of carseats, pushchairs etc without being run over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] People with children can quite easily park somewhere else other than right outside the entrance without it being such a big deal. [/ QUOTE ] You perhaps misunderstand why the parent and child spaces are there. It's so that the parent doesn't have to stand the trolley with their kid in the roadway, and has room to get them in and out of carseats, pushchairs etc without being run over. [/ QUOTE ] NOR without banging the door against the car next to them. Maybe your car?......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Think of disabled and P&C spaces as places you really don't want to leave your car anywhere near. That's what I do. I see the way kids throw the doors open when they go to get out of the car. Put 'em all in one spot tell everyone else where they're all going to be parking, and let them damage each others paintwork while the rest of us park a bit further away. Sounds like a plan to me. Hmm, isn't that what we already have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techieboy Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Now if only supermarkets would realise that cars are getting wider and not narrower and therefore stop decreasing the size of bays to the minimum possible width; world peace might be attainable after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaddiction Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 [ QUOTE ] If an Asda employee came out and told me to pay £60, I'll tell them to fu*k off! [/ QUOTE ] If only it was gonna be like that, they'll put a big sign up on the entry to the car park and warning signs inside and outside the store. probably going as far as to put printed warnings on the reciepts. Oh and the likely chances are they'll own the clamping firm too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron13 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Mother and Child spaces - now that is another issue all together!! The original design here was to make it easier for parents on their own with young babies to get all the paraphernalia out of the car and into the store, now like most good things people will always abuse it. I get equally mad when I see Mr and Mrs average rack up in their people carrier with 2 plus children ranging from 8 upwards. Nice big space right next to the store, lovely they say – thanks Supermarket. In my opinion (and experience) as soon as the child is able to walk without the need of a buggy or pushchair then it’s time to leave those spaces for the babies and toddlers. Cripes I have often seen scumbag fathers using these spaces when they have no kids with them but the booster chairs still in the car!!! Now being a bit contentious here but I am all in favor of these spaces for the purpose they were designed but too many parents see having children as a form of handicap and as such continue to use theses spaces well beyond what is acceptable because it’s harder for them to go shopping than say a single person or couple without kids!! Well my response to that is generally children are a conscious choice and a joy whereas a disability is (generally) not so. Don’t even get me started on all those thousands of scum who have conned themselves a disability sticker that you see (yes assumptions here) You know the type; the ones who swing into the disabled space and jump out the car and sprint into the store to grab their smokes or prawn sandwiches, only just about having time to grab the sticker from the glovebox and put it on the dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32Ash Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Now being a bit contentious here but I am all in favor of these spaces for the purpose they were designed but too many parents see having children as a form of handicap and as such continue to use theses spaces well beyond what is acceptable because it’s harder for them to go shopping than say a single person or couple without kids!! Well my response to that is generally children are a conscious choice and a joy whereas a disability is (generally) not so. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. Hence there will generally be more disabled spaces as those people have a genuine need for parking close to the entrance rather than just thinking it's some sort of 'perk' that comes with having children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullett Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thats the thing with the P&C spaces, they don't have age restrictions. So I can drive my mum to the store and park there. (apologies to Peter Kay) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 The Tesco's P&C spaces are meant to be only for members of the P&C club and that has a limit of 5 years. Shame they let any one park whether they're in the club or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 in responce to Byron's post. What are the criteria for a Blue Badge? Answer The applicant must be over two years of age (as the child would not be expected to be walking before they are two years). Between the ages of five and 65, the applicant should be in receipt of the higher rate of the mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance and provide proof of this. For applicants under the age of 5 and over 65, a medical report is generally sought from a GP or consultant. If the applicant receives the low rate Mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance then a medical report will be applied for. amazing that you see fairly fit people using them still we may see some changes soon. 'Off-street' disabled parking bays such as supermarkets Most disabled persons' parking bays in off-street car parks - for example, supermarket car parks - are not covered by Blue Badge scheme regulations. Car parks and parking bays like these are likely to be privately owned and managed by the individual business. The agreement, and any cost to use them, will be between the owner and the motorists/customers. If you are a disabled motorist (or passenger) and you complain to, for example, a supermarket that a non-disabled motorist has parked in a disabled bay, an employee of the store could ask the driver to move their car from the disabled bay but they will not be in a position to legally insist on it. If you think that people are unfairly parking in disabled bays, speak or write to the management of the store or car park. The government (Department for Transport) supports 'Baywatch' - a partnership between several major supermarkets and disability organisations - including the Disabled Drivers' Association. The campaign aims to end the abuse of parking bays put aside for disabled drivers' use. Baywatch Campaign website (opens new window) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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