ashleywater Posted May 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Is this going to increase second hand values of nearly new cars as well? Funnily enough Soulboy the same thought had crossed my mind, IMHO it should reflect in higher second hand values, have you tried locating a second hand Golf R?? Like trying to find an "unbotoxed" area on Katie Prices Chops............impossible..same comment applies to GTI's etc. In regards to supply to UK, just consider the following figures..........current biggest car marketplace in the world = China 11.5M units this year, predicted to rise to 26M by 2020, 70% of these sales are currently first time buyers who prefer "International" brands (Read VAG Beemers Mercs etc) in preference to the ones produced domestically.............so anyone who does not appreciate the effect this is having on procuring new cars in the UK is not smelling the roses........we have had a 25% devaluation in currency in relation to the euro, whilst new car prices in the UK have risen a shed load, they have not risen by 25%, the market would not stand such price hikes, so we have been placed at the bottom of the line for supply, and have been hit with astronomical increases on any options over bog standard....VW the worst offender by far. The bottom line is that the situation is only going to get worse, and supply choked further,chuck in rampant commodity inflation, and this should refelect in higher second hand values, particularly for higher end motors....just MHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 A lot of the issue with lack of supply of quality used cars is the fact that the market for cars over £25k practically shut down from late 2007 to mid 2009. Hence the high residuals for used cars. I looked around for a low mileage three year old Maserati GranTurismo 4.2 but faced with paying 65-70% of what I could get a discounted low spec new 4.7 (the better engine) one for I opted for the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted May 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 A lot of the issue with lack of supply of quality used cars is the fact that the market for cars over £25k practically shut down from late 2007 to mid 2009. Hence the high residuals for used cars. I looked around for a low mileage three year old Maserati GranTurismo 4.2 but faced with paying 65-70% of what I could get a discounted low spec new 4.7 (the better engine) one for I opted for the latter. Seeyour point totally, the only problem is, that you are probably going to have to wait for the next ten years to get delivery if the current situation persists! I guess this also could explain, why VAG have taken so long to get the new A3 platform out, and have flogged the current A3 platforrm to death time wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikeyboy Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Car manufacturers dont really worry about supply disruption - they buy insurance to cover themselves - as an example GM have put a $1,000,000,000 claim in for contigent business interruption following the jap quake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted May 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Car manufacturers dont really worry about supply disruption - they buy insurance to cover themselves - as an example GM have put a $1,000,000,000 claim in for contigent business interruption following the jap quake. Thats what you call a lot of "Noughts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Its bad news for a lot of things. Fuji recently announced the new Finepix X100 camera and that is actually made in Japan, they Fuji staff have worked hard to re-open the factory to resume production. It was closed for about 2-3 weeks which has caused the main release batches to be delayed for about a month or two BUT they say that it could be a year for them to meet their target sales etc. I was one of the lucky ones to get my hands on one :D Second prices will remain good if car production gets worse, doubt I could wait for a car for 6 months let alone 12! A Golf with that lovely 5-pot RS engine sounds appealing...... Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likenootherswe Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Some news from anoyher forum today : Dear Friends, the situation is tend to be getting better by mid June. (deliveries etc.) For even more traction, a further Wheel option will be available by the end of September. The front axle Wheel setup will be 8,5x19" with special R02 255/30 R19 Tires. The back will remain 8x19" with special R02 225/35 R19 Tires. The total quote of 3.300 Units will be sold out in a few days. Qisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted May 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Some news from anoyher forum today :Dear Friends, the situation is tend to be getting better by mid June. (deliveries etc.) Good old Qisha (Mr Audi Insider) posting again, well that post makes everything as clear as mud, they are now looking at using different tyre profiles front and back now, as well as different widths WTF is going on?? There has been no update on what the actual reason for the protracted delay in UK confirmation of build dates for cars, apart from the Nuke plant paint problems, that being said I spoke to someone in the mix at Audi UK, and they are being told that the only colour being affected is Daytona by this? Then they go on to say that Suzuka Grey production is affected for another unspecified reason FFS!...........I really do think we do not matter a "Hand shuffle" to VAG these days............we have assumed the mantle of "Mushrooms" in the car market place in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahankins Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 There's definitely an element of being parked in a corner and fed a right load of old sh!te. I don't think there's even any attempt to hide the fact that we, UK Plc, is now bottom of many suppliers priorities. It's a ball ache as the car appears to be OK (if not amazing), but I'm not putting down my hard earned until I've seen and driven. At this rate that could be sometime next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 It's a ball ache as the car appears to be OK (if not amazing) £40k+ for an OK hatchback ... I don't think so, for that money it's GOT to be amazing (which the RS3 isn't by all accounts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahankins Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Cars are more expensive now than ever, I don't think it's specific to this car. It's old ground I'm sure, but a well spec'd Golf R is similar money. You pays your money....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwardation Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Hot off the Audi newswires......... Ashley, if you want a fluorescent green RS3, it can be delivered by Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) a well spec'd Golf R is similar money. So that's a rip-off too... two wrongs don't make a right. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with paying a far whack for a car (my RS4 cost me over £53k in 2006), but I insist on getting value for money, and I'm just not seeing that with the current Audi prices (did you know that you can spec up an A1 to cost over £30k?). IMHO Audi (and VW and Skoda) are asking unjustifiably high prices for their cars now. Edited May 7, 2011 by PetrolDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted May 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 So that's a rip-off too... two wrongs don't make a right.Don't get me wrong I have no problem with paying a far whack for a car (my RS4 cost me over £53k in 2006), but I insist on getting value for money, and I'm just not seeing that with the current Audi prices (did you know that you can spec up an A1 to cost over £30k?). IMHO Audi (and VW and Skoda) are asking unjustifiably high prices for their cars now. Issue is, that Sterling has devalued by 25% against the Euro, also chuck in 2.5% Vat increase and thats why Eurozone cars have risen so much in price, your RS4 would now be in the 65K bracket at todays exchange rates,pretty much where the RS5 currently sits, so on that basis an RS3 is not actually badly priced for a car with its level of performance, just a shame you cannot friggin get a build date this century for one.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted May 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Hot off the Audi newswires......... Ashley, if you want a fluorescent green RS3, it can be delivered by Monday. They couldnt deliver one by the next Millenium in bare feckin metal, let alone a kermy coloured one, besides which the RS Feckus boys have dibs on that particular shade of "Puke" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 just a shame you cannot friggin get a build date this century for one.............. And that they get such poor/bad reviews... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahankins Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Not all reviews have been bad....generally seem to be better than the RS5. I'm pretty sure my dealer had a build date on their demo car. It was due June, can't recall exact build week, but 22 rings a bill. I agree that VAG are asking top end money for their cars but that's the market as Ashley says. Still, I picked up a bargain basement RS6 in the great 2009 giveaway so I've had my fair share of discounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I reckon it's all smoke and mirrors, why would paint supply only affect the RS3? Don't Audi make any others cars that aren't silver or black? I reckon they've got a problem with it, and they won't admit it, most likely the handling, and dodgy tyre sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahankins Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I don't believe the paint issue is specific to the RS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Not all reviews have been bad....generally seem to be better than the RS5. Which gets ALL bad reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I have to say that I am surprised that Audi have decided to put the RS3 wheels on the run out Sportback models. I have seen loads around now. Hardly makes the RS3 special does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahankins Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Frankly I'm not that bothered about the wheels, it's all about that engine. Other RS type wheels are available as options on other cars, they may look similar, but they're not the same size rims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now