scooby_simon Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Anyone else wonder what a RHD car was doing in Austria?? [/ QUOTE ] Ummmmmm......mised the RHD........Dodgy.... Run away, Run away...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Spoke to porsche club today.....found out that company that imported the car (no mention of name due to legal issues) specialises in importing crashed porsches and fixing them up for resale. Quote from Porsche club guy about the car: "From the photos of the car you have sent it isn't a C4S (as you say it is a 1995 model - non Varioram). The bodywork is a mixture of Turbo (the rear spoiler), 993 GT2 (the front spoiler) and Porsche Exclusiv replica (the rear wings)." I spoke to dealer, who denied any knowledge of this and is giving me back my deposit tomorrow....even more interesting as of this afternoon the dealer returned the car to the orginal dealer involved in the px Cheers for all your help, this could have really hurt my finances!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 no worries mate, that's why where here!! thanks god you didn't buy it hey!!! anyway, watch out for cheap porsches, in the end you'll pay alot more then you'd do if you bought a CORRECT one from the beginning!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brabus Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 [ QUOTE ] I spoke to dealer, who denied any knowledge of this and is giving me back my deposit tomorrow....even more interesting as of this afternoon the dealer returned the car to the orginal dealer involved in the px Cheers for all your help, this could have really hurt my finances!! [/ QUOTE ] Good stuff Rod, happy to be of some help. Pretty reasonable of the dealer to give your deposit back too. Let us know how you get on with your Porsche hunt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 [ QUOTE ] no worries mate, that's why where here!! [/ QUOTE ] Yup. One victory to the good people of TSN. Good luck in your search for a Pukka Porka.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 I had a busy few days and I am doing two test drives on Saturday. Test 1: 1998 C4S - 43k miles (no turbo alloys though) - £34k (Grey - colour I like) Test 2: 1995 Turbo 4 - 14k miles (HPI registered from accident - rear panel behind driver - car autoaligned - they claim was only cosmetic damange to panel) - £38k - but a colour I don't like (Speed Yellow) What do you guys think? Also what do you think about supercharging (9m) for the C4S? Cheers PS (I plan to take the car back to OZ with me in a couple of years - so resale in UK is not a big a deal for me as some others) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 mmmm where do you get these cars from? 1) a C4S without the turbo alloys???? how come, they where stnd on that car, 18" turbo alloys. Mine has the technomesia alloys wich where a very expensive option 2) a yellow one will be VERY VERY hard to sell on later, yellow and white and red are the worst colors to resell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Top Marque web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 sorry for my expressions, but I ment it more in the way of: where do you keep getting these funny examples from....they all seems abit weird to me, as a C4S with a GT2 front spoiler, tubro rear and ... as a C4S without turbo alloys as a yellow turbo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Blue, what do u think (in terms of performance, usability, reliability etc) of the turbo 993 (1995 model) versus say a chipped C4S (310bhp) or a supercharged C4S (370-400bhp)? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 to be honest I don't know, never drove a turbo myself, BUT i can tell you this, my current cruiser (the sub) is as fast as a turbo, and the only place where I can use the full potential is on the track!!! my C4S was an absolute top package for road-driving, it was fast enough to outperform most cars, 5,2 to 60 and top of 280km/h will outdo most. (or keep up) thanks to the excellent traction and 4WD system not too much cars could follow it in the twisties. Just want to say I never really missed the extra BHP from a turbo, not in the way I would fork out more cash for the buying and maintenance surplus of a turbo versus the C4S. If you want to enhance the performance go for a 3.8 kit from Porsche or have a respectable tuner chip it, I wouldn't go for supercharging it and all that. It's not whats ment to be done with a porsche and you'll only loose out when reselling it. trackwise the porsche doesn't come close to the subaru but funwise and smilewise the porker (C4S) is miles ahead of the subaru, it's in another galaxy even I would go for a C4S, will be easier to resell, cost less to buy and run, will give you almost the same smile on your face, looks identical,and in normal life it's more than fast enough. if you got money to burn get the turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Thanks for that. Again showing my ignorance here, but what are the service costs differences between the two (turbo and chipped C4S). The insurance quote today was identical (expensive!). And also, for resale, I would have thought (again in ignorance) that a Turbo 993 was considered more of a classic than a C4S and ie would hold its value better? cheers again for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 You sound like you enjoy your cars, so had you considered looking for a 993 RS or GT variant. Friend of mine in Holland just got one, and from the pics he has sent it looks like an awesome car, and he speaks very highly of the drive of it. He drove Turbos and all, but went for the RS as it was rarer and hence more valuable long term. Speed yellow - cool colour on a turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 no I must admit I have not even looked at these variants - but I will start searching now. PS - do u know the any of the answers to my previous questions? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Well reason I mentioned the RS and Gt versions is due to the classic and collectability, the rarer the model the better it would be for you. I cannot imagine there being too much difference between Turbo and C4S in terms of resale. As for servicing I dont know why they would be different, but Porsche are good on service quality so it may be that Turbos are stripped and checked which would give an additional cost, that all I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Will let u all know how the test drives go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 maintance wise the turbo is more expensive, due to the things that have to be done to te turbo, think it takes abit more taking care off, the engine is also abit more stressed on. but whe're not talking alot more. I don't know how it's in the uk, but in Belgium a Turbo is alot harder to shift than a C4S, for the reason of the cost and also since most ppl don't want to pay the premium for a HP they won't use anyway. a RS model will hold it's value ALOT better, they are harder to find (a propper example that is) and will hold they're value REALLY well. But there's one problem; finding a good one, that doesn't take a week or so, count a few months. settling for the "good enough" isn't an option since they won't hold their value, they'll hold it just until you paid for the thing when buying it so if you're going for one of these, be relaxed about it and take your time as always, if it's pure fun what you want and no comfort, then go for one of these, they are more driver focused machines and will return better value for money (if you're looking for a diehard car) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I have just put down a deposit on a 993 Turbo (14k miles). Test 1: C4S - great car, 41k miles asking £34k was exactly what u would expect from a Porsche. BUT.... Test 2 : Drove up and this beautiful speed yellow ( I thought I would hate it, but I loved it) was sitting there. Get in, drive, blows your mind, the acceleration in each gear, even in 4th. The car was in great condition (14k miles)- stored in airconditioned garage by an accountant. It gets checked by Porsche specialist monday. The dealer will send me some photos tonight - I forgot my camera. Anyway cheers to u guys for the advice, will let u know how the check goes monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I told you - Speed yellow is the only way to go. Our only regret with both our boxsters was thet neither was yellow. Hope the examinations all goes ok as it will look stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blue Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 what's wrong rod?? why post deleted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherrinR Posted April 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 showed number plate....must learn how to "airbrush"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 in Uk turbo will always command a small premium over 4S - after all its a 4S with a rear wing and an extra 100bhp both models are desirable 993 variants (RS even more so but thats more £) reckon you made the right choice and thats a brilliant price for that condition/mileage - would expect a small saving due to 1995, smash (fine as long as you have bills from OPC) and yellow but not that much yellow is a love/hate thing but enough like it to not worry too much - it will just take a bit longer to sell (unlike white which would be hideously difficult coz it is, well, hideous) look forward to the pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 THats not strictly true about white, they lok good if they have the full Martini colours as well...... Yellow is the best colour by a long way, just not enough people recognise this fact....Looking forward to seeing the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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