JamesB Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 My new RS6 came with the GSM prep (£400) and a list of compatible phones. Having been to a few phone shops, it seems that every phone on the list has now been discontinued . Does anyone have any experience of this and, if so, can they advise me what to do? Btw I'm quite happy to change network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomk Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 ifs its a new car, is must work on new available phones ,whats the point of having to buy a 2nd hand old phone unit ? i think it should be down to your dealer to try and in the least source you a phone that will work , why would you buy such an expensive car , only to have a very outdated system ! ebay is the best place for cheap old phones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 if nokia phones are on the list, they run in series...eg series 30/40/60/80/90. you need to work out which series phones are compatible and a new one may be ok. all nokia phones are only a few different series under the skin. eg the most popular is series 40. thats 6230/6100/7250 etc but also the older 6610 etc. if your car gsm kit uses a pop-port adaptor for nokia support a few current phones should be compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 [ QUOTE ] ifs its a new car, is must work on new available phones ,whats the point of having to buy a 2nd hand old phone unit ? i think it should be down to your dealer to try and in the least source you a phone that will work , why would you buy such an expensive car , only to have a very outdated system ! ebay is the best place for cheap old phones [/ QUOTE ] I quite agree. This will be my approach when I can get hold of the dealer (having problems with my current phone at the moment - I think this could be due to my wife running over it ). I was just wondering if anyone had a quick solution or if I was missing something stupid. I don't know why, I just hate to look stupid in front of people, even when it's totally obvious that it's their area of expertise, not mine. Sadly it keeps happening . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 [ QUOTE ] if nokia phones are on the list, they run in series...eg series 30/40/60/80/90. you need to work out which series phones are compatible and a new one may be ok. all nokia phones are only a few different series under the skin. eg the most popular is series 40. thats 6230/6100/7250 etc but also the older 6610 etc. if your car gsm kit uses a pop-port adaptor for nokia support a few current phones should be compatible. [/ QUOTE ] Apparently Nokia have recently changed their technology so that new phones aren't compatible with the old kit. But I appreciate the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 whoever told you that is wrong i'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 This seems to be a common issue and one that is not really the fault of the car manufacturer in this case. BMW has been having the same issue, and they have stated they can't keep up with the rate of change in the mobile market to keep pace with the change in how bluetooth is implemented on each model. As for the Nokia changing.. they have changed to the Pop Port as the common connection on most models but not all I don't think. The 6310 ultra common business phone has now been discontinued and so has the connection port that it uses I think. Happy searching for a phone that will work... You won't be the first or last thats for sure. Thats why I have a kit fitted.. and its a lot cheaper to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 regarding audi, its definitely their fault. they have new cradles/adaptors coming for newer phones but noone knows when. current supported nokia models include 6310,6110,7110,6150 which are crap. basically, their gsm prep hasnt been updated for a while. its not the fact that nokia have changed their technology or anything, its just audi havent kept up with adaptors. god knows why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I think these are the reasons that my dealer advised not to order the phone prep. However, it must still make it easier to find the appropriate connections to wire in a separate phone kit - I still haven't found out how to make use of the the standard roof-mounted aerial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 [ QUOTE ] whoever told you that is wrong i'm afraid. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, CabrioJ, I don't think I was being very clear - probably because I'm not particularly up to date with mobile phone technology. If I can make/receive calls and texts, that's enough for me! I believe (but wouldn't put any money on it) that the kit provided with the car is not pop-port as it has a cable. Is this correct or has yet another dealer been talking ? Anyway, I've done a bit of fereting around and it looks like Siemens still sell one of the compatible phones as long as you order directly from them. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I think we probably all agree that Audi haven't exactly been brilliant with staying up to date and it seems the dealers feel the same way. I wouldn't have thought that it would be hugely expensive to change the adapter every once in a while and it would avoid annoying a lot of customers. Like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 [ QUOTE ] My new RS6 came with the GSM prep (£400) and a list of compatible phones. Having been to a few phone shops, it seems that every phone on the list has now been discontinued . Does anyone have any experience of this and, if so, can they advise me what to do? [/ QUOTE ] As you've found, this is a problem. Would you believe the brand-new GSM phone prep kit for MMI (A8 and new A6) suffers from exactly the same problem? The majority of the phones with adapters available now are discontinued or not sold by any UK network operator. I've recently got a list from Votex in Germany directly for the A8 and a new UK list for the A6 seems to macth up with it fairly well, and of all the phones on the list, only the Sony T610 is available on contract and supported by the kit. I'm going to have to buy a Motorola V600 (not my first choice of phone by a long shot) and wait until the adapter is released as it's still in development for "Q4 2004". You could check the Cullmann website and see if the adapter list (PDF) there looks like anything you've seen from Audi in the UK. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 If it's any help, Expansys have still got some 6310i's in stock. Click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomk Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 they go for abour 30 quid 2nd hand though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted October 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Thanks for the help, gents . I've ended up with a Siemens S55, not the sort of phone that wins many style awards but then I'm not the sort of phone user who wants much from their phone anyway. But the thing seems to work in my car and none of the reported problems with concurrent CD operation...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splash Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 That's weird James, as my dealer told me car kit was only for Nokia & Sony Ericsson. So even though I was already using Siemens (and asked about that)I've been forced down the 6310i route, and have blagged a couple of old ones to leave permanently installed with pre-pay SIM. Just have to forward all calls when I get in the car. S55 option does appear to be available on new Golf/Touareg kit (along with 6310i etc) but have checked Siemens online shop and now all S55s are sold out, so will have to be using 6310i in Touareg as well. At least its consistent, but must again use the "call forward to pre-pay SIM" option if I don't want to carry a clunky phone. Know of any more S55s anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 [ QUOTE ] I've been forced down the 6310i route [/ QUOTE ] No hardship at all in my opinion, I love the 6310i and I wish you could still buy news ones on contract. I never had to have a mains charger with a CARK-91 in the RS 6, and I even once went to Prague for 5 days and used it for an average of 45 minutes a day and it didn't need recharging until I get back to the airport, and the car. Oh, and the PC synch actually worked unlike Motorola Phone Tools which are sh**e in my opinion. You can keep MP3 ringtones, cameras and 64k colour screens, I want battery life, worldwide operation and good compatability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npcross Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 check out www.cullmann.de. This is the company that make the adapters for the phones. recently had an e-mail from them - cos I've had similar problems finding phones. "adaptors for the OEM-Versions you can only buy from an authorized Audi-Dealer. If your system is the one with the cable you can find a list of available adaptors on our homepage under Line-Fit/ Products/ Second Generation. A list of available adaptors for the system without cable for the system without cable you can find on our homepage under Line-Fit/ Products/ Third Generation. Adaptors for newer models like the Nokia 6230 or the Siemens 65´s or the Motorola Series are already in development." Hope this is of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellfray Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 [ QUOTE ] You can keep MP3 ringtones, cameras and 64k colour screens, I want battery life, worldwide operation and good compatability. [/ QUOTE ] Couldn't agree with you more Chris, I had a Nokia 8910i for a while. Beautiful looking black titanium phone with colour screen, chrome buttons etc. Awful to send text messages with, battery life was about 2 days standby and a couple of hours talk time. Had to have a charger at home, in the car, in the office, and in the suitcase for business trips. If i was going out at night i would have to make sure it had been on charge all day before leaving incase it ran out before I got home! I switched back to the 6310i. Might be as large as a brick but it's also built like a brick - it's been dropped down stairs, stood on and fallen out of my pocket more times than I can remember, but never once had a flat battery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Might be as large as a brick [/ QUOTE ] Eh, how soon we forget! The 6310i is seriously svelte compared to the early GSM mobiles (2110?). Personally, I'm not enamoured with tiny phones because I have quite thick fingers (quiet in the front row there, madam) and the dinky little buttons on some new phones are almost impossible to work with. [ QUOTE ] but it's also built like a brick - it's been dropped down stairs, stood on and fallen out of my pocket more times than I can remember [/ QUOTE ] He he, I assume you saw the pic in my W12 gallery of my rather battered 6310i. It's still going stong despite several 4ft+ drops onto tarmac/concrete/other hard surface. I'm hoping there's a 3rd-gen adapter for a new Nokia soon, I'm seriously considering swapping back as soon as possible, having not got on at all well with "Hello Moto". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
installer69 Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Peter, since James only lives in London and I am in Kent and You in Reading I think we can surround him and pull his car apart to look at the phone prep wiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Peter, since James only lives in London and I am in Kent and You in Reading I think we can surround him and pull his car apart to look at the phone prep wiring! [/ QUOTE ] Nice thought, but James' car has the RNS-E navigation - I think that the phone hook-up will be significantly different. BTW, unless James has moved recently, he's much closer to Reading than he is to London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Peter, since James only lives in London and I am in Kent and You in Reading I think we can surround him and pull his car apart to look at the phone prep wiring! [/ QUOTE ] Nice thought, but James' car has the RNS-E navigation - I think that the phone hook-up will be significantly different. BTW, unless James has moved recently, he's much closer to Reading than he is to London. [/ QUOTE ] James has moved recently. PS You're welcome to have a look at my phone prep if you're ever in west London or near Gerrards Cross in working hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 [ QUOTE ] That's weird James, as my dealer told me car kit was only for Nokia & Sony Ericsson. So even though I was already using Siemens (and asked about that)I've been forced down the 6310i route, and have blagged a couple of old ones to leave permanently installed with pre-pay SIM. Just have to forward all calls when I get in the car. S55 option does appear to be available on new Golf/Touareg kit (along with 6310i etc) but have checked Siemens online shop and now all S55s are sold out, so will have to be using 6310i in Touareg as well. At least its consistent, but must again use the "call forward to pre-pay SIM" option if I don't want to carry a clunky phone. Know of any more S55s anywhere? [/ QUOTE ] Sorry Splash, missed your message. This is what I received from Siemens when asking the same question 4 weeks ago (apologies for the formatting): Dear Mr. B, Thank you for contacting Siemens. My apologies for the delay in replying. The S55 can still be purchased from third party companies and on the High Street. The phone has not been discontinued. We have not been advised when the phone will once again be available from our online shop. My apologies for any inconvenience this may cause. I hope this information has answered your query. If you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us via e-mail or phone. Our opening hours are Monday-Friday 8am-8pm and Saturdays 9am-5pm excluding Bank Holidays. If you wish to contact us by e-mail please go to the contact field on the following website: http://www.siemens-mobile.co.uk So it seems they were still out there then but I have no idea where. The other option, of course, is to look on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
installer69 Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 James, did your rs6 come with the rns-e sat nav or have you fitted it yourself? If it was standard, when did you buy yours, if not, where did you buy it and how much and was it easy to fit. (got bored inserting punctuation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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