Chins Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Sorry to pee on your bonfire, but this might spoil your battle plan [ QUOTE ] It is very sad I know but I made a point of finding out about this exact issue a few months ago! There are 4 versions of the Radio Gamma we are all used to in most mkIV's and all look almost identical from the front but there are many differences inside. Here is a summary: 1998-1999: Made in Portugal by Blaupunkt (I think) (no microswitched buttons 1999-2001: Made in Germany by Blaupunkt (no microswitched buttons) 1999-2001: Made in Germany by Blaupunkt (identical to above but with removable keypad. Wasn't offered in the UK) 2001-????: Made in France by Sony (microswitched buttons with lower power amplifier and automatic high-pass filter) The best unit imho is the Blaupunkt as it sounds a lot more powerful than the latest Sony units which don't go up anywhere near as loud and have an annoying habit of filtering out the bass when you crank it up. The buttons are nicer on the newer models but sound is more important! All these units have "Gamma" written on the cassette flap. The model that has this written below the volume control is the older version as fitted to the Mk3 abroad but it looks completely different to the version most people are used to. Apparantly some of the very first Mk4's have this unit with blue illumination fitted. [/ QUOTE ] Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted April 22, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Sorry to pee on your bonfire, but this might spoil your battle plan [ QUOTE ] It is very sad I know but I made a point of finding out about this exact issue a few months ago! There are 4 versions of the Radio Gamma we are all used to in most mkIV's and all look almost identical from the front but there are many differences inside. Here is a summary: 1998-1999: Made in Portugal by Blaupunkt (I think) (no microswitched buttons 1999-2001: Made in Germany by Blaupunkt (no microswitched buttons) 1999-2001: Made in Germany by Blaupunkt (identical to above but with removable keypad. Wasn't offered in the UK) 2001-????: Made in France by Sony (microswitched buttons with lower power amplifier and automatic high-pass filter) The best unit imho is the Blaupunkt as it sounds a lot more powerful than the latest Sony units which don't go up anywhere near as loud and have an annoying habit of filtering out the bass when you crank it up. The buttons are nicer on the newer models but sound is more important! All these units have "Gamma" written on the cassette flap. The model that has this written below the volume control is the older version as fitted to the Mk3 abroad but it looks completely different to the version most people are used to. Apparantly some of the very first Mk4's have this unit with blue illumination fitted. [/ QUOTE ] Jonathan [/ QUOTE ] Chins So are you saying then that the latest Gamma is a Sony then. I guess my rules could still apply with a new Sony headunit just Sony instead of Blaupunkt ?? AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chins Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Reading the post I guess its a Sony. I just copied the post from the MKIV BBS. Your theory could be right, but the Audio shops Ive spoken to say you cant. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted April 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Guys I have just spoken to Blaupunkt's technical department, I got through to someone who knew all about the VW setups. This is the information. The VW Gamnma headunit is only made by 3 manufacturers:- Blaupunkt Panasonic Grundig VW 6CD in dash Autochanger:- Panasonic only make this unit especially for VW. I have sent off an email to Panasonic tech support for information as if they make the CD player you MUST be able to hook in 1 of their CD tuners. Watch this space as I am really on this mother. AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdt Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hi guys, this is my first post on the R32 forum. Hopefully the first of many I am fully resigned to ditching the stereo as soon as my R32 arrives. I have a ten stack Blaupunkt CD and head unit, V12 amp and Pioneer 10 inch sub. There shouldn't be any problems with installing this, should there? It's not as good as the Bose system in an S3 because, as someone said, you don't get the inevitable rattles with a factory unit. But as they say, if you want to doof doof, you really gotta sub-woof. Still, I'm not paying S3 prices for my R32! Cheers lads, Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie123 Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Just found this and nearly laughed out loud, it's a paragraph from a www.4car.co.uk R32 review <font color="blue">Aluminium-look embellishment and aluminium-rim instruments complete the makeover, along with door sill tread plates and aluminium pedal pads whose rubber grip inserts make up the R logo (a stylised piece of a moving chequered flag). Equipment is as you would expect on a top-line Golf, including a fine stereo system and xenon headlights.</font> Fine stereo system, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison1379134007 Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 which is why REAL car drivers should review cars if only i could write serisouly, i don't know how ANYONE could say it was a fine!!?? "fair to middling" would be far too nice to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie123 Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Just had a call from my dealer confirming my order was on the system (Should explain that I ordered Bank Holiday Monday and the system was playing up) So very happy at the moment But the reason I write, is that I mentioned that I was probably looking to swap out the standard head units (although he could give me no more info about the compatability of the units) he did mention that they had a customer do a similar thing and that they had done the work for him. It turns out he spent £32000 on the R32 and extras. I naturally said that even if you have all the options it only adds up to about £29100 (satnav, leather, cruise), he then replys that he had the speakers changed and that they cost £2000 , plus other bits ie tracker, phone kit etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted April 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 £2000 on speakers , RESPECT AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted April 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Guys I have just spoken to Blaupunkt's technical department, I got through to someone who knew all about the VW setups. This is the information. The VW Gamnma headunit is only made by 3 manufacturers:- Blaupunkt Panasonic Grundig VW 6CD in dash Autochanger:- Panasonic only make this unit especially for VW. I have sent off an email to Panasonic tech support for information as if they make the CD player you MUST be able to hook in 1 of their CD tuners. Watch this space as I am really on this mother. AZ [/ QUOTE ] Panasonic say it may work with a convertor lead. Look like the best way is with the Blaupunkt kit AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie123 Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Get your car ordered then AZ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted April 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Get your car ordered then AZ ! [/ QUOTE ] Newbie I am on the mother, the order form is on it's way from Colin sport import When is yours due ? AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie123 Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 [ QUOTE ] When is yours due ? AZ [/ QUOTE ] Sept/Oct , so I keep thinking it'll be here for the 1st Sept , but then I have a reality check and come to my senses and realise that when a VAG salesman quotes delivery times you can usually add at least a month on. So it'll probably be November So yes you're going to order after me and get your car before me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brabus Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Guys....what about shopping around? Out of curiosity I checked around here in Geneva and was quoted delivery times from 4 months to 1 month with the spec of my choosing.... I dont know, maybe its different over there. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted April 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Guys I have just had the suitable response from a large southern car stereo company. The Blaupunkt kit is the best option to go for, the following items are designed especially for the job, as advised by Newbie previously, specification and pics above. The total price including fitting is £499, obviulsy these can be swapped for the VW kit prior to selling the car Blaupunkt In dash Cd IDC09 Blaupunkt CD Tuner CD72 Miami Hope this helps AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted April 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 Guys I have just been informed by Colin @ Sport Import that the decent DSP unit is available on imports with the Gamma. Picture below AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie123 Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 And I bet it's cheaper than here too ! Very tempted to have one of those fold out DVD Satnav screen jobbies installed in mine, very cool ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 I have been told that there are big delays on cars with the opted DSP. i had the choise to wait and wait for it or hopfully get the car soner if a droped the option. I dropped it so hopefully i will get the car sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin M Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 I think the production situation changes all the time. No current delays through us in any spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison1379134007 Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 the delta has a dsp with the same options as the one shown above... i cant; say if it sounds any better though.... i doubt it but i'd be willing to hear other wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin M Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Does the Delta really have DSP or just electronic tone controls labelled similar to the DSP? The DSP option for the Gamma and the Sat Nav upgrades costs more on it's own than the Delta radio, so I'm not convinced the Delta has a "real" DSP system within. (Nick, unable to email from current location to tell you this, trust you read this post, Phil can help you with rest of questions whilst I am out of circulation for next few days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison1379134007 Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 nah it has a button labeled DSP... when you hit it you can cycle through the various modes like "driver", "arena" etc etc... i can't say what the other DSP is but i'd call it a dsp... maybe not as good or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I wanna klnow why the DSPO was so fecked up on my car.... thye said it would further delay the delivery, why do they keep doing this to me???? I just want my car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich63 Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 [ QUOTE ] I wanna klnow why the DSPO was so fecked up on my car.... thye said it would further delay the delivery, why do they keep doing this to me???? I just want my car... [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps, were assuming that DSP is short for Digital Sound Processor! It may be........."DiSaPointment" or "Digital Sounds Pants" or even "Delays Shipment Priority"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison1379134007 Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 too bloody right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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