runflat Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 I am thinking of going for either P21s or Gold Class clear wax. Based on the following criteria, I would appreciate opinions on either or both products. 1 Performance 2 Ease of application 3 Any issues with residue / buffing Thanks gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emm3 Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 I have both but prefer to use Meguiars for ease of application and buffing, as far as I'm concerned, most Meguiars products are easier to remove than the P21s. I bought it because I like to try the latest polish/waxes, then I'm left with a cupboard of half finished bottles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 I'd rat6her go for Meguiars #16 Paste Wax, rather then the clear wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Haven't actually used the Megs gold class, but the P21 gives a great shine and depth, goes on like butter and is very easy to take off and leaves no residue. I'm curious to know if anyone thinks there are waxes that perform better. For instance, pinnacle, has anyone tried that? I was very tempted to buy a kit the other day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I am thinking of going for either P21s or Gold Class clear wax. Based on the following criteria, I would appreciate opinions on either or both products. 1 Performance 2 Ease of application 3 Any issues with residue / buffing Thanks gentlemen. [/ QUOTE ] Try Meg's professional yellow wax, from the pro range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runflat Posted June 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 cheers guys...keep those opinions coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 [quote Try Meg's professional yellow wax, from the pro range [/ QUOTE ] couldn't agree more. Good stuff, lasts and easy to apply/buff off. Just don't put too much on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 P21S is really easy to use and gives a great shine, I have used pinnacle souveran and that leaves an awesome shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyopolis Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 I use P21 on my car and it seems to last well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveStar Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I am thinking of going for either P21s or Gold Class clear wax. Based on the following criteria, I would appreciate opinions on either or both products. 1 Performance 2 Ease of application 3 Any issues with residue / buffing Thanks gentlemen. [/ QUOTE ] If you want to use a Meguiars 'consumer line' product then NXT wax would be a better choice than Gold Class Clear Coat. It goes on and off real easily and it also has a mild cleaning ability, although it certainly doesn't fall into the 'cleaner wax' category as it's far to mild for that. It can also help to reduce the appearance of swirls. I've used both and would say that NXT performs better in all areas. I've heard of people having trouble with removal of Gold Class (although I can't personally think how). P21S wax is a fine product, but to get the best out of it, I'd suggest you use the P21S paint cleanser first. If you like the paste type waxes, then I'd recommend trying 'Poorboys Nattys Wax'... it's very affordable, gives excellent results and is very easy to use (can be used in direct sunlight). But again, I'd say it's a good idea to use some sort of cleansing product before hand to get the best out of it. The final wax/sealant that you use will only be as good as the prep work you put in before it. So don't expect to find any wax/sealant that is a miracle product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleanimage Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I am thinking of going for either P21s or Gold Class clear wax. Based on the following criteria, I would appreciate opinions on either or both products. 1 Performance 2 Ease of application 3 Any issues with residue / buffing Thanks gentlemen. [/ QUOTE ] If you want to use a Meguiars 'consumer line' product then NXT wax would be a better choice than Gold Class Clear Coat. It goes on and off real easily and it also has a mild cleaning ability, although it certainly doesn't fall into the 'cleaner wax' category as it's far to mild for that. It can also help to reduce the appearance of swirls. I've used both and would say that NXT performs better in all areas. I've heard of people having trouble with removal of Gold Class (although I can't personally think how). P21S wax is a fine product, but to get the best out of it, I'd suggest you use the P21S paint cleanser first. If you like the paste type waxes, then I'd recommend trying 'Poorboys Nattys Wax'... it's very affordable, gives excellent results and is very easy to use (can be used in direct sunlight). But again, I'd say it's a good idea to use some sort of cleansing product before hand to get the best out of it. The final wax/sealant that you use will only be as good as the prep work you put in before it. So don't expect to find any wax/sealant that is a miracle product. [/ QUOTE ] You really rate NXT? We were sent sample to try quite a while ago, (about 4 months before it was released) and we thought it was excellent stuff, no doubt about it, it covers a multitude of sins. But unfortunately we never kept an eye on any of the cars we applied it to, shortly after we heard a load of stuff about it not lasting very long. (although this was from the Americans, and stuff tends to last longer in our climate). By the time we heard this we were already using the Trade version of AutoGlym EGP which is far easier for us to get hold of and does pretty much the same job of hiding scratches... obviously, as a valet company, we don't want to hide scratches, we want to remove them!!! Anyways, it seems that after the initial buzz, NXT went out of fashion pretty quick, as you have obviously played around with a number of waxes, I'd be interested in your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveStar Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] You really rate NXT? [/ QUOTE ] Yes and no. I just suggested it, as it seemed the decision had been made to go for either P21S or Meguiars in terms of brand. If you shop for your car care products from places such as Halfords, I don't think there's much better available to the Sunday morning brigade, apart from say Autoglym SRP. With proper prep, there's no doubt that NXT wax delivers the goods in terms of looks... but, like you mentioned, NXT does seem to be a bit hit or miss in the durability department. I'll admit it's been a 'miss' as far as I'm concerned, but many have had better results. For some reason, NXT wax is a fantastic looker when used on metallic blue colours... don't know why. It's usually my first choice when waxing a car of that colour. No doubt about it though, I have other waxes that I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleanimage Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Ah! but you can make metallic blue look good with ear wax! If I ever buy a new car (which I probably wont') I know what colour i'll be getting. Talking of Blue cars, we have a Passat outside that we put Supagard on 5 years ago, since then it has been washed by hand and occasionally put through a car wash. Never been waxed in 5 years!!! I'll put some pictures up once we have given it a wash off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runflat Posted June 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 So I can give you a review now of the products I used last weekend (£££££) which have had a week of baking sun and rain showers to give a reasonable idea of performance, used in this order: NXT shampoo with cotton wash pad flexi blade & Megs drying cloth Autoglym SRP NXT Tech Wax Turtle wax Top Coat Sealer Took me two days on and off to apply this little lot, but I can honestly say it was worth it. Not only has the rain beaded beatufiully, but when I came to wash my car today (a week later), the dirt just wiped off, including the flies welded on from a stately blast to Lincoln. I know there are probably more expensive and better products out there than the ones I used, but I am well impressed! Seriously, I will be taking care of my car a lot more now I know how easy it is to keep on top of it. Only one problem...I think I am addicted to sniffing Megs NXT wash and Tech Wax. OMG it is heavenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveStar Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Only one problem...I think I am addicted to sniffing Megs NXT wash and Tech Wax. OMG it is heavenly. [/ QUOTE ] Yep, you're not wrong there! Most Meguiars products smell very nice to say the least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runflat Posted June 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 I am quite worried, I keep nipping out to the garage for a quick sniff. Are there any self-help groups for Megs sniffers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveStar Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Are there any self-help groups for Megs sniffers? [/ QUOTE ] You can just imagine it... "Hello, my name's runflat and I've not been near a drop of NXT wash and wax for over 4 weeks". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSE Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 The Zymol Shampoo I have been using recently has a gorgeous coconut smell. Lovely......thats about it for my does of aroma-therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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