mattcony Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Wanting to start trying to dial out the understeer and roll from the R by adding variouse roll bars and braces. Neuspeed 25mm front anti-roll bar Neuspeed 25mm rear anti-roll bar Neuspeed front upper strut brace Neuspeed front lower strut brace In which order would be best to start with say 1 at a time, would be a hole in my pocket to do all 4 in 1 go. emailed awesome and they say there is no 25mm rear AR bar for the R is this correct. Am sure I have seen them on Vortex ? Cheers Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryccf Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 I'm running just the rear neuspeed 22MM and it's basically neutral, so my suggestion would be the 25MM neuspeed set to the mildest setting (believe it has 2 or 3 adjustment postions and they do exist - believe they're running $259 for the 25MM rear bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan32 Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Surely the Haldex upgrade is the first mod to dial out some of the understeer. Albeit the most expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gti_Fly Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 All the Americans seem to hark on about getting the Rear anti roll bars done as the first ever mod. My only concern is that I've read that the (anti roll bar) bushes fail prematurely even when greased up properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Also the US cars have very different suspension to ours I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Surely the Haldex upgrade is the first mod to dial out some of the understeer. Albeit the most expensive! [/ QUOTE ] Not at all. Do this mod after the rest of them if you are doing them one at a time. The car naturally understeers because the front and rear are set up to do this out of the factory - it's "safer" to understeer than it is to oversteer, according to the manufacturers. Changing the characteristics of how quickly the rear wheel drive kicks in won't help this - if you are driving on a track, you need to turn into the corner and then apply the power when you have a clear exit (unless you're having a mental 5 minutes on a roundabout). If you do the rear first, you'll not eliminate it. Try to stretch your budget to do the anti-roll bars first, then the front top strut brace, then the front lower strut brace. Oh, and then a rear stress bar... It's never ending.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Matt, PM me know when you are next going on a track day and, if I am booked on the same one, I will be happy to take you out in my R with all the suspension mods so you can see the difference between a stock and modified car. No, the turbo won't be fitted for a few months, but you might just decide to go for the AmD Stage 4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english68 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 I just had new shox, std VW ones, and it has made a big difference, even at only 21k miles. Would suggest this first to anyone who thinks their car is a bit wobbly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyPence Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 so far i have a front upper Neuspeed strut brace, FK Konigsport coilovers to be fitted aswell as rear adj. tie bars from Forge Motorsport. I dont know how it will feel after these are fitted, but at least it will look nicer when its lowered as far as i can go on the FK's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcony Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Matt, PM me know when you are next going on a track day and, if I am booked on the same one, I will be happy to take you out in my R with all the suspension mods so you can see the difference between a stock and modified car. No, the turbo won't be fitted for a few months, but you might just decide to go for the AmD Stage 4... [/ QUOTE ] Next time out is to the Ring I'll be found doing laps from the 11th of Aug to the 15th Round and Round and Round !! Just had a look on Neuspeeds website and they list the 25mm version is this what your running ? http://neuspeed.com/products/product_det...o&p_id=1877 MauveGecko what out of the 3 settings are you running on the front and the rear on your R ? Cheers matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Surely the Haldex upgrade is the first mod to dial out some of the understeer. Albeit the most expensive! [/ QUOTE ] Not at all. Do this mod after the rest of them if you are doing them one at a time. The car naturally understeers because the front and rear are set up to do this out of the factory - it's "safer" to understeer than it is to oversteer, according to the manufacturers. . [/ QUOTE ] Aye, so you can see the crash coming and brace for it.... not going to happen if you're travelling backwards (oversteer goe wrong!!)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] MauveGecko what out of the 3 settings are you running on the front and the rear on your R ? [/ QUOTE ] I don't run the adjustable one - they've only just released this. I run 25mm front and 22mm rear. Next mod is probably the FK suspension after I've been out in Helfinger's .:R. My only slight concern is the hardness of the ride with the uprated suspension as I do a lot of miles - we'll have to see. I'm at Donington again on 9th August, booked through Book-A-Track so you'll probably be on your way to Germany by then. Have fun on the Norschleife... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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