NeilB Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Sunday Times Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 What is this country coming to! So the crap drivers out there can still cause chaos inside the speed limit and take their car home at night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 spotted this in The Times while reading it tonight [ QUOTE ] Owners are charged £105 to get their vehicle back. If they don’t pay, it can be crushed after 21 days. [/ QUOTE ] Not great; but I would hope this would be used in more extreame cases [ QUOTE ] Police in Lincolnshire earlier this month seized a Citroën Saxo belonging to a driver who had done 50mph in a 30mph zone. They used powers under section 59 of the Police Reform Act 2002, the first time they have used the powers in this way since they came into effect in 2003. [/ QUOTE ] Made me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Yeah, we all know what the government is all about no? Sickening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Oh, FFS. So at a time when all other crime in this country goes unpunished, they decide that this needs bringing to the fore again. Labour need to go. NOW. If they were violently overthrown, I don't care who by as long as it wasn't the environmentalists, I`d be happy. Really, I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Think about it. At the mo, 3 points and £60 isn't a major speeding deterant. Imagine 3 points, £60, £105 release fee, £12 overnight fee, then costs of actually getting home. To be honest a 30 limit indicates a built up area, so doing 50 is stupid, and the driver deserves all he gets. (50 in a 30 is equivalent to 116 on the motorway) I think this makes complete sense. Just a pity they cant start improving the laws on proper crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Think about it. At the mo, 3 points and £60 isn't a major speeding deterant. Imagine 3 points, £60, £105 release fee, £12 overnight fee, then costs of actually getting home. To be honest a 30 limit indicates a built up area, so doing 50 is stupid, and the driver deserves all he gets. (50 in a 30 is equivalent to 116 on the motorway) I think this makes complete sense. Just a pity they cant start improving the laws on proper crime. [/ QUOTE ] Yep,if it was just the chavs and prats who speed through villages,along high streets and past schools etc. then I'd be behind it. What about when they decide it's somone who's doing a ton on the motorway that deserves to have their car taken? That's 30mph over the speed limit,would probably count it as excessive and then suddenly most of us(if we're honest)would be in fear of returning home carless. No,IMO it's just more scaremongering from our beloved Government.The easy option as per usual. I'm fed up with hearing "speed,speed,speed",teach the crap drivers to drive properly and only speed where it's sensible too,and the accident rate will fall overnight. Then they'll be no need to take our cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Yes, but fining motorists is an easy way of funding the government's plans even though we're all already paying far more than any time in history and not seeing much [if anything] for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulkbear Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Been there done that (see this post) the fuzz are on to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Ok, seems I'm going to be a bit leftfield here... What's the feckin problem? If you get caught speeding excessively or racing, then you get your car impounded. Exactly the same as in France. Only the French charge quite a bit more. Not a problem as far as I'm concerned, and will take a good number of stolen/uninsured/untaxed cars off our streets. I'd like to see an advisory % figure on what should be classed as "excessive" - i.e. at least 50% over the limit? And it should only be enforceable by a real live police officer using some discretion, not a camera. And that means it's only likely to happen when the police officer considers a more serious offence has been committed - such as dangerous driving or racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Oh, and I very much doubt section 59 specifically refers to speeding. The Sunday Times only mentions speeding because they know that's the high profile cause célébre. That Saxo impounded for 50 in a 30, for example - there were bound to be other offences involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 The problem is that these days you can get away with crimes like murder [unless it was in self-defense] pretty much unpunished... unless you`re a motorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 That's not actually true though is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Compared to the way most crimes are treated here, the motorists get a very hard time, whilst few would disagree that the justice system/sentences/judges need a serious re-think. I believe that the motorist is severely penalised and this government have actually come to rely heavily on the substantial sum of money recieved from fining us. I don't believe that the vast majority of non-motoring crimes are punished even nearly hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 There is a great deal of truth in that, I agree. And I understand the reaction to any "new" threat to motorists' pockets. However I do think this is a very good idea, it's just the way it has been reported (using the dreaded "speeding" word) that gets us riled. Our justice system does have its problems, but that's an entire new subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulkbear Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Well i think they should stop picking on me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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