Tomk Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 mf GF's ex owes her a lot of money , and he agreed to pay it back but has been stringing her along for 7 months... its about 2k in total - money lent and he also broke her laptop and damaged her car, he himself is a solicitor... so has said from day one ' it would ruin his career ' if the paperwork landed on his desk so she has been waiting, its got silly now as he is refusing to give her more than £150 and says ' tahts all i can afford ' which we know is not true , he is also now refusing to take blame for everything else - though that does nto matter as he has admited it via email etc so she gave him one last chance to pay yesterday before saying ' ill have to take this further ' we does she go next ? what forms does she need to fill out ? the guy is a complete w***r and also wont stop phoning her and txting when he is drunk or misses her... if i answer her phone it just goes dead..but thats a nother matter its got to the point now that taking this further will hurt his career - he has only just qualified but since he is being so pathetic its going to have to happen , anywere i can download the paperwork ? or any advice ? we need to do things asap cos she reconds he is stringing her along and is about to move... help would be welcombe cos she is really stressed and wants the money back - and also him to suffer which is a bonus for both of us since he has put us though this for 4 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 If she has proof that the debt exists via either a document or reliable witnesses. Then the small claims court could be the answer. Seen as a length of time has elapsed where you have tried to get the money back in various other ways too. Don't worry about ruining him, should of paid up in the first place and it's his own fault, and if he phones up again blow a whistle down it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Try visiting the local small claims court. They'll have the paperwork there and can talk you through it. They can't help you on the merits of the case, but IME they are helpful people and will make sure you're filing the right stuff. Then, once you're before the Judge he is likely to take an informal and helpful approach, especially with unqualified & unrepresented litigants. You are what the Court was set up for; don't forget that. As for the "don't sue me, it'll ruin me" rubbish, ignore it. If he doesn't want to be sued, he shouldn't owe the money. Simple enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randellp Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I can't see how a financial dispute could hurt his career (apart from being made bankrupt), unless he is hiding some very dark secrets! However, your GF will need some very concrete proof of any debt, or liability to have a leg to stand on. If you have also tried all reasonable methods of extracting payment (and can prove it too), then an invitation from small claims court, or just a decent letter from a sdolicitor will show you mean business and elicit the suitable response. However, stern, professional letters can often do the trick... "As previous amicable requests for the funds to be repaid have not resulted in any return of the money, this is a request for you to repay £xxx (and detail costs) by XX date. If the total amount is not supplied by this date then appropriate action will be taken to recover the funds." You can also add "Please note: if you do not supply the funds in full by the above date then you will also become liable for any legal costs and recovery fees (i.e. solicitor's fees & letters, debt collection agencies) that are incurred in the pursuance of this claim." That usually prompts a good response, as you are still being reasonable, but showing serious intent. If no money is forthcoming, and you have the proof (so that there's not chance of dispute) you are clear to take him all the way to the cleaners. Also - has your GF said, written or texted "please stop contacting me as it upsets both me & my new boyfriend"? If so, and he still has texted her and called her (and you), then she is in a very good position to ask the police to intervene in what has become a case of uninvited contact (i.e harrassment). She needs to keep a good record ot txts & calls for this to work too). Worth a try, as long as your girlfriend hasn't been hassling him too much for the money - then he could turn the tables and accuse her of the same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 He's her EX. Why the hell should she be worried about him when she's with you and he owes her £2k? Feck him (not literally). Take him to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 As mentioned, there really does need to be some sort of proof of this debt existing, if it was a girlfriend lending her boyfriend some money and thats it, it could be quite difficult to prove, a bit like his word against hers. Even with E mails admitting it, he can easily say that someone else could have accessed his e mail account! could be a tricky one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-S3 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 As long as you can prove he owes the money then just go for it. Take him to court and let him pay that way. I wont think he will pay up without some form of serious legal threat ie summons. Even if he tries to arse around after going to court im sure the Law Society would be VERY interested in his history. Then he will be deep poop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 I have yet to know a poor solicitor, I went out with one once, (after she bought my house), and when she was 27 she was earning over £40k. Also agree that he shouldn't suffer if it is just a financial dispute, but the fact he is not taking things seriously must be dealt with. I would get an independent solicitor to write him a letter giving an ultimatum. If she wants to go to court IIRC small claims can now handle up to £2k. As Audi_Smitten says how we she proove they had an agreement over the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 Tom, write off the money, and expect never to get it back. That'll make things easier to cope with rather than worrying about how it's gonna turn out. Then set about getting your face right in his at every possible opportunity. Get right up his nose (without breaking the law) and smile nicely at him every time you see him. Polite comments about his lack of credibility and mentioning the outstanding debt while he's in company will annoy him no end. If you add a few quid to the amount every time you mention it (as interest) and imply that court proceedings will ensue when the amount is a good enough size, it'll play on his mind every time he sees you. The more you work at this, the better you (and your girlfriend) will feel, and the more he'll want to not involve himself with your life. And that's far more important than a couple of months wages. That's what I'd be doing. If you can't afford to do without the money, then disregard the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 Here is a link to the guidance from the courtservice. There are forms etc. available on there also. Linky But like Rustynuts said, if you can live without it, then you may be as well to forget about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomk Posted September 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 thing is she cant and its also an aspect of him being 'smug' and getting away with it which me as her new bf cant let him have....he can def afford it , aparently he rents out 2 rooms of his house but cliams for single person rates... he is a t**t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] and its also an aspect of him being 'smug' and getting away with it which me as her new bf cant let him have [/ QUOTE ] Then it's not so much to do with the money. You sound as though you need to prove you're better than him. He ain't worth it. He's p!ssed off with you 'cos you got his girl and he's trying to make life hard for both of you and it's working apparently. Take away his ability to get under your skin. Change phone numbers and go ex directory, new mobiles etc. and return all letters as "Not known at this address!" Get him out of your life, and stop trying to prove you're a better person by lowering yourself to his level. Move on and leave the sad sack behind. Money's the important thing to him, and if you leave that out of the equation, he's just a sad git. I had 6 years arguing the toss with a similar pillock and just got it sorted this year (wifes ex husband). Basically, he was (and is) p!ssed at me for stealing his wife, and thought he could use the weapon of "Not going to pay any maintenance" with us. He doesn't now, and we don't want it. Guess what? Now he's really p!ssed at me! We still have the threat of taking him sometime for the outstanding amount, but it's better to leave the thousands (yes, thousands) hanging over him as a threat. That way he stays away and I don't have to hit him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] That way he stays away and I don't have to hit him again [/ QUOTE ] Class line! Anyway, do you miss the money? Can insurance pay up for the laptop? If you don't miss the money and insurance can pay for the laptop, then forget him. Change the mobile number and warn any friends - if he gets hold of the number, then they will become EX-friends. Just forget about him and lead your own life. Alternatively, you could let his senior firm patner know what a pest he is like.....make it sound as if the Senior Partner is thelast resort before going to the police about the calls and text messages.........? Which will drag the company name into the wrong side of a court! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomk Posted September 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 would love to let people know what he is like , but he does not have a job at the moment , does the ' odd bit of work ' and lives rent free cos he does not decare his lodgers... he does not even know about me, he is just being a right pain to her, and she cant afford not to have the money, he originally agreed to pay for the laptop and also damaged her car, then said ' i have no job cant afford it , will send 10 checks of £25 each.. never got anything , he is stalling and being a twit probably laughing at her. she gave him 2 weeks notice in writing her intentions and said to either send her a cheque or write back , she said she wanted no more communication than that, he has tried to call her 3 times today alone as his 2 weeks are up and nothing ! she said to stop, so just hope that he gets the message ! she is doing the paper work with nothing to lose but the £100 odd quid to get it in, and thats worth the embarisment for him to be pulled in to court anytime. She cant afford not to get the money, but if its never going to come to her she has to try and do something . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsparkesuk Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 2 things 1 Stitch him up somehow about the lodgers, don't u get money for stiching people up like that? (like when u snitch on tax dodgers lol not that i do that) I don't wanna sound like a grass but if this guy is a real tw@t then do it. 2 He's dragging it out so he can keep in contact with your ex, thats the only reason! dunno if its been mentioned before but he defo still likes her when u read what u say and when u play the hard annoyed BF he see's u as jealous and thinks he's stiring between u! But then i'd beat the living sh1t out of him like u wanna... Hey i'm just good at giving advice i don't actually do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Tom, as mentioned before, she could be throwing the £100+ down the drain, unless there is some solid proof that he owes this money then it will be her word against his! This is civil law and is a tricky one, you also have to factor that he knows the law and probably knows the loopholes and defences! I wouldnt be surprised if she never see's this money!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGDODDS Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think if I were you I would write off this debt put it down to experience and get on with your new lives together,then when things cool down a nice mixture of milk,sugar,prawn/fish oil,even something like dog sh*t,left for a couple of weeks in a warm place then poured into the heater vents/slots on his car should at least put a smile on your face especially if he has a car with leather interior should cost a bit more than 2000 to put right good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsparkesuk Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I think if I were you I would write off this debt put it down to experience and get on with your new lives together,then when things cool down a nice mixture of milk,sugar,prawn/fish oil,even something like dog sh*t,left for a couple of weeks in a warm place then poured into the heater vents/slots on his car should at least put a smile on your face especially if he has a car with leather interior should cost a bit more than 2000 to put right good luck [/ QUOTE ] I like this guy alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGDODDS Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 there is loads of different ways to string a cat if you know what i mean!!!!!! you could try a small hollowed piece of metal tubing cut into 1-2"strips cut at an angle and rested on this guys side wall of his tyres soon as he drives away POP all four need replacing not that ive done any of this honest just over heard people talking about it officer!! or you could be more subtle and throw bricks through his windows wait till its a cold dark winters night though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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