Tobes49 Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Can anyone tell me if this is good value for money, The specs seem to be good, but I keep hearing AMD make better chips and the graphics card only has 128mb, Link click here! Basic specs: Intel© Pentium® D Dual Core Processor 830, Featuring the latest PC Processor Technology: Dual Core. The new Intel® Pentium® D processor features 2 processing cores enabling your PC to think as fast as you can multitask, 3.0GHz, 2 x 1MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB, DDR2-533MHz SDRAM, 250GB S-ATA £750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Think you can get much better for less £££s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 for that sort of money on a prebuilt system, even I would be considering a Dell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Tobes, I have bought 2 Medion computers from Aldi (still using the second one) and I reckon that they are very good value for money when you examine the spec in detail and the quality of the motherboard/components used. Of course, it does depend exactly what you want to use them for. This new machine from Aldi has (according to the spec) 3 dual tuners - Sat/freeview(digital)/analogue(ordinary terrestrial) so that you can watch one program whilst recoding another. A SCART socket making it very easy to connect to a TV, it has a remote control so that it is ideal to use as a digital video recorder and 8 channel audio. It also has WiFi (802 11g) as well as both 2 x firewire and multiple USB 2 sockets and both wireless keyboad/mouse. My existing Medion (8083) model is very quiet and, judging by the spec, this new one should be quieter still great if you want to use it near the TV. To be fair, AMD processors can be (slightly) faster for gaming but Pentiums are usually rated better for video processing (eg resizing a DVD or video processing from a digital video camera). It comes with a 3 year warranty - I have not needed to use the warranty on mine but hard disk and CD/DVD writer failures are not uncommon after about a couple of years (as a hobby I repair computers for friends and work colleagues and often have to replace these items). Finally, it comes with a good software package of serious programs rather than the usual junk bundled with many computers. I would be interested to see the price of a Dell specced up to match. I would agree that someone looking for a basic computer for office type work/web surfing cannot do much better than Dell - You can get a Dell Dimension 1100 with a 2.5 GHz Celeron, 80 GB hard drive, CDRW/DVD drive, 512 MB memory, Windows XP Home and a 15 inch TFT monitor for £299 delivered including VAT. However it stops being a bargain if you try to up the spec; they want £58 for a DVD writer which can be bought for £30 or less elsewhere. I am tempted to replace my current computer with one of these new models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobes49 Posted November 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I've got a medion 8083 and got to say it been great, this is for a friend who wants a fast pre-built system for his CAD work, He wanted one with a TV card and wireless internet. would the graphic card only having 128mb cause a problem with speed, i would have thought it the processor for CAD work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpongpo Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Depends on what CAD package you're using really. If its just a sh1tty autocad thing then it'll be fine. If you're running high end 3D modelling packages then you may need something more. The CAD software should detail what the minimum specification is for a graphics card I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUL3S Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 SixDegrees: "Think you can get much better for less £££s!" Where? It's very easy to say that, but this box is very high spec, and by all accounts well built. PaulS3: "for that sort of money on a prebuilt system, even I would be considering a Dell. " That's ridiculous. Try speccing one up, it'd cost you far more. You can spec up their equivalent, I presume the 9150 although they don't tell you the details of the chassis etc., for the same price, and you're missing all the extras, have a lesser gfx card and a 1 year rtn to base warranty. No wireless, no tv cards, extra £ if you want firewire.. etc.. Add the equivalent "at home" warranty, and the fact that you have to buy a monitor you may not want too, and it's pushing a grand or more. Tobes, Medion are a huge company in Europe, and have a good reputation. Their components are sound by all accounts, for example RichardW mentioned CD/DVD units, in the MD8800 they are both Sony, and the wqriter has LightScribe so you can flip the cd and burn an image / text onto it when you're done. It is built on the new BTX standard chassis, meaning it's cooler, smaller and quieter. The gfx is a slightly diff spec'd up 6600GT. I love the databay feature, although when I buy one thursday I wont be able to afford the extra 99 for the 250gb unit to go in it. maybe sometime. I wish people would stop judging these PCs by where they're sold. It'd be fine if they were mail order I suppose? (oh yeah - Dell: £60 delivery please...) See you at Aldi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravihira Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hi, does anyone know whether I will be able to install Windows Media Center on this PC?. I know it comes with XP home edition, but i want to change this to media center if I can. I know media center is a bit "picky" on the type of hardware it has at its disposal. Also I noticed it has coax/optical out connections. Does this mean it will connect to an external amp and register the sound as Dolby digital 5.1 ?. even better, will it recognise DTS sound ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Welcome to TSN Rarihira. Try looking around here for a list of supported hardware. Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Welcome matey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] for that sort of money on a prebuilt system, even I would be considering a Dell [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] thats ridiculous [/ QUOTE ] Nope far from it in fact - I use Dell for any new business machine and home machine - why? because they are the cheapest \ best specced machines on the market, for example they have an offer on at the minute (check the website), P4 3.0 Ghz, 1gb RAM, 19" flat screen, 250 sata, dvd\writer etc..the cost - £500. (easy £1000+ if built yourself - oh and never build your own machine, its not worth it) This is only my 2 cents but any one buying consider Dell - 1 year collect and return warrranty is standard (in configuration untick 3yr warranty - takes about £100 of price), free delivery on most.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 What's the link to the Dell one please? You could save me £250... I'd need to buy the DVB-T cards for about £100 but would still save £150 - and get a 19" monitor in the bundle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] P4 3.0 Ghz, 1gb RAM, 19" flat screen, 250 sata, dvd\writer etc..the cost - £500. (easy £1000+ if built yourself - oh and never build your own machine, its not worth it) [/ QUOTE ] Your taking the piss right? £500 for a P4 3.0GHz, 1GB memory, 250GB HDD, 19" monitor, easy... I always build my own, but I recommend most people buy Dell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyb Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 I have been using a Medion laptop for nearly 4 years now. P4 2ghz from Aldi. It's been solid and reliable, if a little heavy, but has USB, firewire, digital sound. TV out etc, well specced for 1K nearly 4 years ago. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] P4 3.0 Ghz, 1gb RAM, 19" flat screen, 250 sata, dvd\writer etc..the cost - £500. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, no I'm wrong, your just spouting a load of crap. The cheapest system you could build outside the outlet with a Pentium 4 3.0GHz and a 19" TFT monitor would be £865, and with only an 80GB hdd, CD-RW, 512MB memory, etc. Are you sure you didn't mean a 17" monitor as that is only a £90 option rather than £250.... Just tried on Ebuyer and I could build one for £560, inc vat, delivery and with a 19" TFT monitor..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] P4 3.0 Ghz, 1gb RAM, 19" flat screen, 250 sata, dvd\writer etc..the cost - £500. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, no I'm wrong, your just spouting a load of crap. [/ QUOTE ] Easy mate I usually build mine too, but for £500 whats the point, at least you get kit that is well matched in performance terms, and tech support if you need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 It was a semi-responce to my previous reply. For £500 you couldn't buy anything like the system he was saying.......... Yes worded a bit strongly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Thought it was a bit out of character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Right... all this for £553 delivered. !!! Dimension 5150 Pentium 4 Processor 630 with HT technology (3.00GHz, 800MHz fsb, 2MB cache) English - Win XP SP2 Home Memory: 1G Memory, 2 X 512mb (400, 512) Hard Disk Drive: 160GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive Video: ATI Radeon X300 SE 128MB HyperMemory Modem: V.92 Modem Data/Fax/Voice PCI UK DVD Drive: 16 X DVD +/- RW Dell E193FP 19'' mainstream LCD Flat Panel Monitor Avaliable on Dell Outlet site now this minute. I got a P4 3Ghz with virtally the same spec as above but with no monitor I already had one for £430 about 8 months ago. Add in a DVB-T for £60 off Dabs and you have a cracking system and great support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Ahhh, didn't think to try the outlet, although once you head there its kinda pot luck.... Take it back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Did the Dell outlet a few years ago when it was a bloke who sent you a spreadsheet. They are as good as new. I even got a cardreader and a soundcard that wasn't even on the original spec sheet as bonus atems. They test them to be as good as new and you still get a warranty. I paid for 1 years on site so any problems are sorted hassle free. They aren't doing too well at the moment sales wise thus the bargains in the Outlet at the moment. Makes sure if anyone does do it you add it into the basket. You then get extra money off and free delivery. There is also the option for a good wireless keyboard for £25... Seems good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Your taking the piss right? [/ QUOTE ] Thorburn don't question my intelligence - I have better things to do than sit on here and lie about the cost of current Dell offers (as proved by other member\s who obviuosly have enoungh knowledge to find them before posting). I recieved the offer thorugh email today and was just trying to give helpful advice. But saying that I also like people of your sort, because that way I can piss on your bonfire like most 'I know everything IT people' I meet everyday - btw i'm a web developer \ PDA support \ Network administrator working along side Microsoft certified developers - so please shut the f**k up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Guys, do we really need to have a pissing contest? Dell systems are great value!.. but I think the on-site support is overpriced, considering most systems will never fail. Removing the unneeded crap from the price, makes them astonishing value I'd say. Only users with non-mainstream requirements need to consider bespoke-build machines nowadays IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Your taking the piss right? [/ QUOTE ] Thorburn don't question my intelligence - I have better things to do than sit on here and lie about the cost of current Dell offers [/ QUOTE ] I was saying your taking the piss at "£1000 to build this yourself" [ QUOTE ] btw i'm a web developer \ PDA support \ Network administrator working along side Microsoft certified developers - so please shut the f**k up. [/ QUOTE ] Thats eloquent, it really is. I admit that I've made a mistake, you tell me to shut the f**k up. I really hope one day I grow up to be just like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Only users with non-mainstream requirements need to consider bespoke-build machines nowadays IMO! [/ QUOTE ] Quite right, I most build my own because I like to know exactly whats in my machine, and dabbling in overclocking, saving a couple quid is just a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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