nightmare Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Todays news papers said that Nicholas White walks free from court yesterday after a judge ruled that his speeding was not dangerous Nicholas White 21 faced being jailed after he was clocked at 149.9 mph in a Porsche beloning to his father it was threw out of court after the judge ruled that speed alone did not form the basis of a dangerous driving case it came after the police officer told the court that he went fast for a short time only on a straight road with excellent visibility and also slowed down for the bends and that he came to a halt when the police car caught up with him (eventually) mabee a well connected daddy !!! or is it ok now for the rest of us to do the same on the nearist straight bit of road in good conditions!!! dont think so some how our licences would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 At last a judge with some common sense! Speed alone does not form the basis of dangerous driving. Why would the driver "face jail" anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin09 Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Well its set a precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsparkesuk Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 [ QUOTE ] At last a judge with some common sense! Speed alone does not form the basis of dangerous driving. Why would the driver "face jail" anyway? [/ QUOTE ] At most it would be a license revoke and a large fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I take it, he was not in Scotland!!!! Lucky S-o-B! He'll be dining out on that for ages down the pub........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Bit of a legal technicality, I guess. If he'd been charged with speeding, then assuming they had the evidence he'd have been looking at a ban, a big fine and possibly even a short stretch. However, above a certain speed and/or when they don't have the proper evidence for the speeding the charge often seems to be Dangerous Driving. The theory being that anything over a certain speed is by its very nature dangerous. He can consider himself a very lucky boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 No it was not in Scotland it was inWinchester Crown Court the story is in todays Metro paper the free one on page 5 lucky guy but why did it go to court in the first place if the police officer was going to make that statement(he went fast for a short time only on a straight road with excellent visibility and also slowed down for the bends and that he came to a halt when the police caught up)as Robin09 says it sets a precedent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 According to the story, he will later face charges of "driving with excess speed" and driving without insurance. He deserves punishment for no insurance but 150 in a Porsche isn't excessive imo if there isn't much traffic around on a fast stretch of road. I still don't know why anyone would face jail just for speeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 It all depends on how you view speeding, I agree with you Robin that he should not have faced jail for speeding alone. The opposing view vrom the anti-speed brigade is that he could have killed someone else as well as himself and as such was a danger to everyone. I suspect the police officer made that statement in small bits under cross examination, then it would be put together at which point if he had agreed to each individual part he couldnt really say different. Sounds like a very good laywer to me. Edit: Just thinking about this a bit more, if (and this is only going on what the story above says) 1) he was only 21 you could argue he was a relatively inexperienced driver, 2) he wasnt familiar with the car as it was his dads and 3) he wasnt insured do you feel that the judge made the right decision? If all circumstances are good then yes he should just face a speeding fine/points but if the other factors are relevant maybe he should face stronger prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 also noticed in the paper that the motorcyclist who was done for the highest speedster caught had died whilst speeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminTDI Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Whittle will now face charges of driving with excess speed and driving without insurance at a later date. [/ QUOTE ] I would expect a rather hefty fine and ban are awaiting him, funny how that was the last line of the news article. Have to love the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omi Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 So many Sun readers... It was commented in court that when he was doing 150mph, it was on a clear, straight stretch of road... He was braking for corners and slowing around other traffic. Speed doesn't kill, inappropriate speed does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] At last a judge with some common sense! Speed alone does not form the basis of dangerous driving. Why would the driver "face jail" anyway? [/ QUOTE ] Because if he was charged with something like DD40 - dangerous driving with excessive speed, then he may have only been speeding, but as it is a criminal conviction you are open to Prison, Community service or probation as part of the penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] It all depends on how you view speeding, I agree with you Robin that he should not have faced jail for speeding alone. The opposing view vrom the anti-speed brigade is that he could have killed someone else as well as himself and as such was a danger to everyone. I suspect the police officer made that statement in small bits under cross examination, then it would be put together at which point if he had agreed to each individual part he couldnt really say different. Sounds like a very good laywer to me. Edit: Just thinking about this a bit more, if (and this is only going on what the story above says) 1) he was only 21 you could argue he was a relatively inexperienced driver, 2) he wasnt familiar with the car as it was his dads and 3) he wasnt insured do you feel that the judge made the right decision? If all circumstances are good then yes he should just face a speeding fine/points but if the other factors are relevant maybe he should face stronger prosecution. [/ QUOTE ] Have to agree with the edited part there. It was not borderline speeding, and it must be dangerous on UK roads to go so quick, especially an inexperienced driver in a 911, a car which deserves respect anytime. Up to a ton is debateable, but this is a bit much... PS - I'm Just jealous 'cos my dads got a mondeo, not a porsche ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Well its set a precedent. [/ QUOTE ] Alas, it hasn't. The only way it could set a precedent is if the details are exactly the same. So, same road, same conditions etc etc. Thjis case isn;t an open window to drive very fast cos it's seemingly safe to do so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Lets be honest, he's going to get enough jip from his Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Yes, that's a point. And I very much doubt he will be driving again anyway, if his dad has anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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