bearra Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Put Carctere rear valance on at the weekend and have now decided to definitely lower the cab with Eibach Pro-Kit to finish it off. I know quite a few have lowered their's on here, any recommendations where to go to get springs fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipstone Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 PSI Tuning if you are anywhere near Stoke on Trent - set up by Andy who used to be the head mech at Awesome GTI - he is a master with anything VAG. PM me if you want his details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmmlmmam Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I know DJBS4 did a lot of research before changing his springs. I'm sure he'll be along to give you the details soon. Cab_Lad did his as well and was on here the other day. From what I can remember with a small drop you can get a good look without any significant impact on ride quality. That makes it quite a good mod. CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Cheers, was thinking about AwesomeGTi in Manchester as they did my Miltek but Stoke's only half the distance . Not heard of PSI tuning, they got a website? Will wait and see what DJB has to add later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipstone Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 PSI also do Miltek - think I might treat the TDI to one soon! Not got a website as yet as he only set up a couple of months ago - in fact he was moaning about the fact that his web was still not up on Sat when I was down there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynas Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 DJBS4's springs are nice and I know he's had no problems with them. He did tell me the name, but it escapes me! 20mm drop all round and looks the biz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Put Carctere rear valance on at the weekend and have now decided to definitely lower the cab with Eibach Pro-Kit to finish it off. I know quite a few have lowered their's on here, any recommendations where to go to get springs fitted? [/ QUOTE ] Hi Hof, hope things are good witchoo?? Ok so about these here lowering springs. I do have H&R Sports Springs fitted and fitted well by Awesome GTI. They drop the car by 25mm all round and tighten the ride somewhat, given also I have 19" MTM's so if you are wanting a float along ride stay well clear of that combo!! Purposeful stance and ride is the name of the game here....I have also been doing myself some research on the H&R's / OEM damper config and there are many an option available to either upgrade the dampers to Konis to run with the H&R's, or go the whole hog and either change them all for a Koni suspension kit or a KW coilover setup with rebound/damping and adjustable lowering settings. The downside of the former choices is that prices will range anywhere from £580 to £850 without fitting!! Whereas the H&R's supplied and fitted cost me £520. The only problem one might face in changing out the original springs for sports springs in either H&R or Eibach form is that the new springs might (and I say might lucidly as nobody can categorically confirm this and I have posed this very question to many an expert) exceed the design rating of the OEM dampers which may result in the dampers being exposed to undue stresses as the sports springs are shorter by design but the original dampers are rated along the entire length as opposed to compressed so this may not indeed be a longterm concern. So for me the jury is still out on this subject, I did think that the ride on my car was becoming "numb" though after having had the springs/dampers checked over in recent days everything is as it should be. The car sits well and feels as responsive and as taught as it did when I drove home after the work was carried out at Awesome GTI so yes, I would seriously recommend getting H&R sports springs fitted. Hope that helps, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Have you seen this exhaust MTM do for the 2.5, they probably do one for the 2.0. If I'd seen this before getting my Miltek I would have seriously considered it. from MTM web site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Think DJBs BiMotos help fill the arches out nicely too , but mechanic at dealers yesterday said to avoid 19" on the cab, bad handling or something... They also told me I've buckled one of wheels so more new wheels Think I'm gonna go for hyper silver old shape RS4's this time, looking at pics of my old cab think they're still my favourite Audi wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanW Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Mine old cab was lowered 30mm by Jeff Fowkes Wheels in Ibstock, Leicester - improved the handling IMO and the ride wasn't that bad either. I got told all sorts of horror stories about 19" wheels on the cab but I had no problems at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 How much you pay CabLad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanW Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I think the springs were roughly £120 and fitting £80, apparantly it's a nightmare of a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Cheers CabLab, seems a pretty cheap mod, always thought it would costs loads more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Put Carctere rear valance on at the weekend and have now decided to definitely lower the cab with Eibach Pro-Kit to finish it off. I know quite a few have lowered their's on here, any recommendations where to go to get springs fitted? [/ QUOTE ] Hi Hof, hope things are good witchoo?? Ok so about these here lowering springs. I do have H&R Sports Springs fitted and fitted well by Awesome GTI. They drop the car by 25mm all round and tighten the ride somewhat, given also I have 19" MTM's so if you are wanting a float along ride stay well clear of that combo!! Purposeful stance and ride is the name of the game here....I have also been doing myself some research on the H&R's / OEM damper config and there are many an option available to either upgrade the dampers to Konis to run with the H&R's, or go the whole hog and either change them all for a Koni suspension kit or a KW coilover setup with rebound/damping and adjustable lowering settings. The downside of the former choices is that prices will range anywhere from £580 to £850 without fitting!! Whereas the H&R's supplied and fitted cost me £520. The only problem one might face in changing out the original springs for sports springs in either H&R or Eibach form is that the new springs might (and I say might lucidly as nobody can categorically confirm this and I have posed this very question to many an expert) exceed the design rating of the OEM dampers which may result in the dampers being exposed to undue stresses as the sports springs are shorter by design but the original dampers are rated along the entire length as opposed to compressed so this may not indeed be a longterm concern. So for me the jury is still out on this subject, I did think that the ride on my car was becoming "numb" though after having had the springs/dampers checked over in recent days everything is as it should be. The car sits well and feels as responsive and as taught as it did when I drove home after the work was carried out at Awesome GTI so yes, I would seriously recommend getting H&R sports springs fitted. Hope that helps, David [/ QUOTE ] Only just noticed your response DJB, sorry, not being rude just never noticed it Exactly what I'm after Had the Miltek done at Awesome and with your recommendation think that's where I will have to go. They were maticulous with the exhaust. Do you remember how long it took to fit them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I seem to remember DJBS4 was there for the day but fitting was 4-5 hours max, getting the OEM springs off can be a bit of a mare with the restraining bolts and this determines how long you'll be there for If it's easy take off then less time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Cheers PG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 NP. Hopefully have my H&R's fitted in the next couple of weeks. DJBS4 and I have gone for H&R's because Eibach don't make a kit for the B6 S4's, although they might for your car. If they did, I would go Eibach over H&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Got them checking now with Eibach to see if they do them, they aren't listed anywhere for the quattro cabs. But asked about H&R aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 PG, DJB, anyone know what coilovers are? Been told no one makes sport springs (eibach, koni, K&R...) for my car but they make coilovers for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipstone Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Coilovers are essentially adjustable suspension that you can raise and lower the ride height, amount of dampening, etc to suit - means you could slam your car if you were taking it to a show for example, but have it set higher for normal driving. Cost alot more than just springs due to the level of control - eg I think when I looked a set of Bilstein coilovers for my Golf was in the region of £1000 whereas I could get springs and shocks for about £300. [Cough] speak to PSI Tuning - Andy will sort you out [cough] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Coilovers are essentially adjustable suspension that you can raise and lower the ride height, amount of dampening, etc to suit - means you could slam your car if you were taking it to a show for example, but have it set higher for normal driving. Cost alot more than just springs due to the level of control - eg I think when I looked a set of Bilstein coilovers for my Golf was in the region of £1000 whereas I could get springs and shocks for about £300. [Cough] speak to PSI Tuning - Andy will sort you out [cough] [/ QUOTE ] He's got the jist of it, coilovers are more expensive and have better range and rebound compensation ability, but having looked at the H&R website they do sports springs and coilovers for A4 Quattro Cab's B6 and B7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Cheers guys I was called back yesterday and told H&R don't do them but they do Just waiting for a price now. But now knowing what coilovers are, they sound great but are they any better to justify the extra ££? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Hard to tell at the mo as info over here is so sketchy. I know DJBS4 was complaining of the ride on his sports springs but he has since had them checked over and everything is working within normal paramters and he is finding the ride good again. There just ain't enough info. to determine whether coilovers are better and how, too much conjecture and too many people 'yeah we've fitted loads of them' when they haven't [cough] Awesome [cough]to try and get a sale and paid work. It's a B6 S4 I have, not a B5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipstone Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Must admit in terms of the Golf (can't you see my background!)coilovers were always the preferred choice, but then again this was somewhat to do with the less than perfect handling of the mk4. As for the A4, and in partic the cab, I am not sure as to whether the extra expense could partic be justified, and would have to defer to the A4 masters on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearra Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Think I will stick to just changing the springs first then and see how I get on. Got the impression coilovers are more 'pimp my ride' and show car when I'm only after a small drop to fill the arches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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