RedRobin Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Read in a newspaper the other day (not the Currant Bun) that Chief Constables were actively seeking, among other things, "Interim disqualification on motorists, pending appearance in court" !! Why do the authorities seem to think that motorists are criminals? The other things they were seeking related to ASBOs etc and were far more justifiable imo. 'Pending appearance in court' can take months!! An American Indian mate of mine spent a whole year, yes that's 12 months!, in Brixton and then Wandsworth jails on remand and then was found (rightly!) to be innocent. He only came over for a long weekend visit. I visited him every couple of weeks and could tell you many stories. I thought that the justice system in this part of the world treated you as Innocent until proved Guilty. Not so, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Depends on the offence. I'd be quite happy for drivers stopped by the police for drink driving, dangerous driving, driving without tax/insurance to have their licences removed immediately. Though in most cases, the accused would probably just carry on driving anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Last time I was arrested the attitude is far from Innocent until proven guilty - it is the complete opposite. Treatment I recieved was pretty poor to be honest and when I complained about it apparently the CCTV was not working so there was no footage available to prove my comments - just amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Still, at least it prompted you to stop selling poppers to kids on the mean streets of Milton Keynes, eh Shao? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rustynuts Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 I was gonna say, do you get arrested on a regular basis or something? On the original subject, surely lawyers will have a field day (at someones expense obviously) arguing the legality of this if it ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 I think you are right, garcon (as usual!) about drink driving, driving without tax/insurance to have their licences removed immediately, and for their cars to be immediately impounded - This is already happening in Hampshire and cars are being crushed after a period of opportunity. But "dangerous driving" isn't always clear cut and is a term which can be used to cover offences which don't merit disqualification until properly proved. Dangerous driving is a very generic and sometimes subjective term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 True - dangerous driving would need some sensible interpretation and discretion applied by police oficers for it not to be used as a kind of 'catch all'. As a driver, you'd be pretty annoyed if you were initially arrested for dangerous driving and had your licence taken, only to find that come your court appearance the charge has been commuted to speeding or due care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 That's exactly my point, garcon . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Dangerous driving is a good example. Speeding for examaple can be punished with Dangerous Driving (DD40) if speeds are excesive - but if no one is at risk, does it really merit taking a licence on the spot for speeding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 ....A perfect "examaple"! Instant licence confiscation for just speeding in safe conditions isn't fair imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 "They" (*) need a variant of Napoleonic Law to be able to beat you up with things like speed cameras and the like... The onus is always on you to prove innocence, not (as it should be) on them to prove guilt. (*) As I'm watching the 4th series of X Files - "They" are the police state enforcers of the miltary-industrial-entertainment complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collease Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 [ QUOTE ] (*) As I'm watching the 4th series of X Files - "They" are the police state enforcers of the miltary-industrial-entertainment complex. [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 ....Rachel isn't called a Supreme Nerd Goddess for no reason . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] (*) As I'm watching the 4th series of X Files - "They" are the police state enforcers of the miltary-industrial-entertainment complex. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] If it helps you to understand things, I can use very small words, and maybe pictures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 ....collease obviously isn't on a Mac, Rachel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] ....collease obviously isn't on a Mac, Rachel [/ QUOTE ] I've just checked, and you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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