dogbucket Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Surrey police are doing this yellow card/red card thing, where they have armed members of the pubic with speed guns and you get sent a rude letter if they record you over the speed limit. So two old duffers got me doing 50 in a 40 the other day (a country road with about 2 houses on it btw) and I got a 'yellow card' letter asking me to mend my ways. But the thing that gets me is they hold this information on record and if my car is recorded again I get a 'red card'. The letter states no prosecution can be brought from the data they collect, but they dont say what happens when you get this red card? Obviously they have no idea who was driving and they have not asked either, so I doubt there is much they can do. But it annoys me that they know this data has no legal standing and yet they can send threatening letters. Also if the police stop me in the future how do I know this information will not sway their judgement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 What if you're driving within the speed limit, but dangerously? Much too close to the car in front, no lights on at dusk, whatever. Are they going to "yellow card" you for that? I doubt it very much cos they're not in a position to make judgement calls. so yet again we've got a situation where speed alone is being targetted and every other dangerous driving element is ignored totally. Insane. And like you, I'd love to know what legal standing these yellow/red cards have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 None. They are just scare tactics. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Surrey police are doing this yellow card/red card thing, where they have armed members of the pubic with speed guns and you get sent a rude letter if they record you over the speed limit. So two old duffers got me doing 50 in a 40 the other day (a country road with about 2 houses on it btw) and I got a 'yellow card' letter asking me to mend my ways. But the thing that gets me is they hold this information on record and if my car is recorded again I get a 'red card'. The letter states no prosecution can be brought from the data they collect, but they dont say what happens when you get this red card? Obviously they have no idea who was driving and they have not asked either, so I doubt there is much they can do. But it annoys me that they know this data has no legal standing and yet they can send threatening letters. Also if the police stop me in the future how do I know this information will not sway their judgement? [/ QUOTE ] I know what will happen (in theory anyway) if you are recorded 3 times or more the police will send you a very strong letter and then use the imformation (i.e.time etc) to target you going through a speed trap they will have set up. this would only work if you used the same route at the same time each day. In our village speeding is a serious problem and they are looking to set up a speedwatch scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 To know you've been caught before, they must keep your info on file. I'd be asking them to prove they comply with the various acts regarding holding personal information. Quote a few paragraphs of the DPA at them and tell them to cease and desist or you may have to take further legal action against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbucket Posted December 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 I am going to send a letter stating I want my details removed from their database unless they have photographic evidence of my car etc I also want to find out if they use radar or laser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 [ QUOTE ] In our village speeding is a serious problem and they are looking to set up a speedwatch scheme. [/ QUOTE ] See this is what really fecks me off. If you've got a specific speeding problem in a village then surely that's a prime good use for a speed camera, not out on some clear straight open road where it will generate more income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothwell Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Yep... I keep seeing them around Cranleigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 I would send it back with "BOLLOCKS" written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I would send it back with "BOLLOCKS" written all over it. [/ QUOTE ] that's the community spirit would suspect the sort of person that volunteers to help with this scheme is also the sort of person that frequently drives with their nose pressed firmly against the windscreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Yes and they'll be the holier than thou types who say that they never break the speed limit (which means they're liars because we all do intentionally or not). As Ari says, speeding through villages can't be condoned and should be dealt with via a fixed spped camera, preferably one relocated from one of those nice open stretches of A road where they are normally sited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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