willf_ie Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hi, Ordered new GTI here in Ireland, and getting her in 2 weeks time. Cant wait she's got 10k euros worth of toys. When I get the new girl - the first thing that going to happen is a Bel 996r & 2X Laser Track 400 are going in. I've got Radar/Laser in my other cars and feel very uneasy driving without it. Has anyone done a FRONT & REAR install of a Jammer? Can you post or e-mail pics of the set up? Where worked best for the install? In Ireland its 12 points and your out... I have 4 from being taken from behind. The gear has saved me over 11 times now and I cant speak highly enough about it. Prob the best kick money can buy - driving by a helpless TRAFFIC CORPS GUNMAN in a 911 Turbo after your Laser Jammer gives you them 7 seconds to attempt re-enty in the 60mph atmosphere!!! Any help Lads? WF Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Aren't Jammers (not detectors) highly illegal in Ireland? They are in the UK and you risk having your whole car confiscated I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks3 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Can't believe they would confiscate the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsy Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Can't believe they would confiscate the car. [/ QUOTE ] true but harsher things have happened.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I read a thread about this somewhere before. A company MD had a CLS Merc with a jammer fitted. After the car was clocked by Roadside Van Speed Cameras twice as unable to give readings the car was flagged (by it's plate) for investigation. I think he had a court case pending IIRC. they discovered the jammers behind the front grill. Personally i would opt for a detector and steer clear of jammers... or just slow down a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willf_ie Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Not too worried about the Legalities of it lads. I've used the different laser guns (LTI 20-20 etc) on the Cars to test it as part of the install. They jammer just gives different error codes for the 7 seconds then you read off the speed. I've had it save me now 7 times and I havent been caught with it or pulled over. You need to use a laser gun and see just how difficult it is to get a shot bang on with it. Its very much aking to riffle shooting. No officer will hit 10/10 cars. Error messages are common and if driven correctltly after the alert you can slow down quite discreetly, gently switching lanes etc. Go try a laser gun out and see for yourselves... I'm looking for pictures of the installation - not judge and jury lads! Anyone help? William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 ....We're only trying to point out the error of your ways and inform you what's legal - The rest is of course up to you. Generally most Tyresmokers are responsible people and don't encourage law breaking - At least not openly and publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxyboy Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 i'm not so sure about that rr, a little law breaking cant do that much harm, especially when if you get caught, you say sorry, never do it again, and say it was a learning experience...and move on from there...... i've never met anyone in my life who are completely squeeky clean...everyone has a little secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhardy22 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hear Hear, What they dont know wont hurt them............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I also heard of a case where by the radar gun threw back error codes on a particular vehicle and that the vehicle number plate is stored by police n these instances. If it happens more than twice I believe it 'could' get investigated (your car confiscated pending an inspection). The car I read about, the police dropped the case - it was thought that as these devices are so uncommon that if it got into the national press, more damage than good would be done (ie promote the existance of jammers and their true capabilities). I have considered one of these devices before but you really need a front & rear jammer and to be honest I'd only be buying one for peace of mind as I try not to carelesly speed. However, if I had 9 points on my licence and relied on it for work then I may be tempted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I don't disagree with you, maxyboy. As far as I'm concerned, all law is man-made and merely for guidance and I make up my own mind about everything and have to accept the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresco1 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Can't believe they would confiscate the car. [/ QUOTE ] The Gardai can confiscate your car, and I believe can now (or very shortly will be able to) confiscate EU cars providing an offence has been committed. Mind you, for 'confiscate' you should really read 'impound'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willf_ie Posted February 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Leaving aside the Ethics and the Legal Guesswork... As a modification to a MkV GTI has anyone installed a laser emitting GATE OPENER on thier car, or found any good pictures of the install on any other sites. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Leaving aside the Ethics and the Legal Guesswork... As a modification to a MkV GTI has anyone installed a laser emitting GATE OPENER on thier car, or found any good pictures of the install on any other sites. Thanks [/ QUOTE ] Behind the grill mate isn't it. I've been on this forum for 4 years and haven't seen a thread about it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Not too worried about the Legalities of it lads. I've used the different laser guns (LTI 20-20 etc) on the Cars to test it as part of the install. They jammer just gives different error codes for the 7 seconds then you read off the speed. I've had it save me now 7 times and I havent been caught with it or pulled over. You need to use a laser gun and see just how difficult it is to get a shot bang on with it. Its very much aking to riffle shooting. No officer will hit 10/10 cars. Error messages are common and if driven correctltly after the alert you can slow down quite discreetly, gently switching lanes etc. Go try a laser gun out and see for yourselves... I'm looking for pictures of the installation - not judge and jury lads! Anyone help? William [/ QUOTE ] if you don't want judge and jury why on earth do you sign up to a respectable forum, brag on about the loads of money you've spent on 'extras' and then proceed to say you regularly break the law and are looking at ways of wasting police time and avoiding prosecution for illegal activity? I seriously thing with posts like that you should get yourself over to a cruise site and ask them to help you. I'm not saying for one second non of us speed, because that's clearly not the case, but jamming radars and doing so on a regular basis clearly means you are deliberately driving too fast in dangerous areas. Welcome to TSN, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Scroll down this thread: HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon79f Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Bloody hell everyone get off will fie's case. Drpellypo no one asked for your opinion on the ethics of having one fitted, nor did they ask for your holier than thou thoughts on road safety. People have every right to ask a question on this site without getting a load of useless responses. I may not agree with the use of the jammers, and neither would a number of people. It would also appear RR is of the same opinion, but at least he tried to point the poster in the right direction to get the information. I can see you are a long term user of TSN and have a great deal more posts than I do. I would have thought this would lead to tolerance, not arrogance. My two cents worth. Getting off my soapbox. Will fie - do the jammers work in Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollox Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 How about we try this thing whereby if you don't agree with someone deciding to fit a laser jammer, you don't comment about it? Clearly there are a number of people who are very anti such devices, and I'm sure there are many who have such a device. If the people who are interested in and/or have a jammer answer the question and those that abhore the concept step aside then the thread will be a happier place Otherwise, threads like these are only going to go one very predictable way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon79f Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Here Here Mollox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Whatever our individual opinions, my understanding is that laser detection devices which interfere with police speed detection actions will soon be illegal. This does not affect GPS devices. There are some useful links in the R32 forum which I linked to earlier. For my part, however strong my opinion, I do try to remain objective and open to changing my mind - Something which TSN has taught me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 [ QUOTE ] People have every right to ask a question on this site without getting a load of useless responses. [/ QUOTE ] Not useless if when fitted he got caught, fined or even banned and had his car impounded. We were merely pointing out the legal implications of using one. Of course the choice is with him. I personally would welcome any understanding of them or their use. [ QUOTE ] How about we try this thing whereby if you don't agree with someone deciding to fit a laser jammer, you don't comment about it? [/ QUOTE ] I know you are just trying to promote happy discussion mollox, but the beauty and success of this forum is based of the freedom of what you can say and the help you can give or recieve. Negative comments or critisms all make up part of the descision making process, and that is the beauty of open and fair discussion is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 As above. Molly, what you are effectively saying is that if you don't agree with something, then shut up? How's that going to add anything to discussions? I agree when stuff gets silly and turns into a bitching match, it needs to be stopped, but what's wrong with opinions? In my case, it wasn't so much that I was on a speeding soap box, because I'm not. All I was saying was that the OP hasn't said much other than to say he deliberately wants to not get caught for speeding. To me there's a big difference between RR getting done and saying 'fair cop - I was going a bit fast - but I do think it was safe' and the OP saying 'I've jammed laser signals at least seven times.' if anything what I said was good advice, because it's not unknown for the Police to read forums, and prosecutions have come about as a result. I'll shut up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 For what it's worth I very much agree with what LeMans has said - Yes, we're expressing individual opinions, but we are also making people aware of risks etc. We need to continue to be able to express such opinions/advice even if we aren't all in total agreement - Healthy debate. It's when someone starts personally slagging that it needs shutting down. Just IMO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willf_ie Posted March 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Lads, There is a reasonable expectation and assumption that anyone who chooses to modify thier vehicle, makes a decison based on the availble facts and then deciedes themselves if its safe, or legal or in breach of warranty etc. Tinted windows may indeed be illegal. Aftermarket exhausts may break noise restictions. I dont see why anyone felt the need to spout thier take on the law - let alone IRISH law as percieved from a different jurustriction. I simply asked if anyone had photgraphs of certain modification that they'd like to share. I'm not wasting my time with a forum war with anyone. If nobody's done the mod - then there's nothing more to this thread. willf_ie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 ....Did you find any useful info in the R32 thread I posted a link to? IIRC there are some other links in that thread too. People have only been trying to help you by sharing their views - Don't worry about it. It might be a bit dull if we all always agreed totally about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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