Woppum Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 I know a few of you have put superchargers on you R32's. Obviously they go alot quicker, but how has the way the car drives been altered? Has the power and torque curve just been emphasised or is it a totally different animal with a charger? Im asking as im thinking about adding one to my CSL. Different cars, same principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6tas Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I know a few of you have put superchargers on you R32's. Obviously they go alot quicker, but how has the way the car drives been altered? Has the power and torque curve just been emphasised or is it a totally different animal with a charger? Im asking as im thinking about adding one to my CSL. Different cars, same principle. [/ QUOTE ] Is your CSL not quick enough mate !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I know a few of you have put superchargers on you R32's. Obviously they go alot quicker, but how has the way the car drives been altered? Has the power and torque curve just been emphasised or is it a totally different animal with a charger? Im asking as im thinking about adding one to my CSL. Different cars, same principle. [/ QUOTE ] There was an article in Performance Tuner about an SC strapped onto a CSL - did you read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted September 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 No, I have read before that there was an article but havent seen it and cant find a scan on any forum. You dont have it do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Sent you a PM Wopps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted September 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Sent you one back mate - and thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Sent you one back mate - and thanks again! [/ QUOTE ] No worries any time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I know a few of you have put superchargers on you R32's. Obviously they go alot quicker, but how has the way the car drives been altered? Has the power and torque curve just been emphasised or is it a totally different animal with a charger? Im asking as im thinking about adding one to my CSL. Different cars, same principle. [/ QUOTE ] The Supercharger keeps the car feeling stock (sounds a lot better though), it's the same curve, possibly a bit more gain up at the top but only just. The gears seem to last a bit longer despite the fact you're moving faster. It's a strange sensation, especially when you know what the car was like before. I think it's a lot easier to drive than a tuned turbo as you don't get that sudden surge of power that always seems to come in on a roundabout or bend and light up the tyres. You don't have to be as careful. I've seen loads of vids of CSL's in Sweden I think with SC's and the VF kits now do M3's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 here you go! http://www.loaded.se/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilGT Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Could you put a supercharger and a turbo in an R32? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Could you put a supercharger and a turbo in an R32? lol [/ QUOTE ] I've seen photo's in the US and one guy looks like he has done that alredy! Not sure if it actually works bit it does fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogdan Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 It might be posible at some point, the same as the new VW 1.4 TSI engine, only you need more space under the hood to fit everything. It will be nice though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogdan Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 There are some turbo kits out there that feel almost like a supercharger, only much more power. HPA/HGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I know a few of you have put superchargers on you R32's. Obviously they go alot quicker, but how has the way the car drives been altered? Has the power and torque curve just been emphasised or is it a totally different animal with a charger? Im asking as im thinking about adding one to my CSL. Different cars, same principle. [/ QUOTE ] The Supercharger keeps the car feeling stock (sounds a lot better though), it's the same curve, possibly a bit more gain up at the top but only just. The gears seem to last a bit longer despite the fact you're moving faster. It's a strange sensation, especially when you know what the car was like before. I think it's a lot easier to drive than a tuned turbo as you don't get that sudden surge of power that always seems to come in on a roundabout or bend and light up the tyres. You don't have to be as careful. I've seen loads of vids of CSL's in Sweden I think with SC's and the VF kits now do M3's..... [/ QUOTE ] Yes the loaded car is currently running the ESS supercharger (same as the one im looking at) but at a higher PSI so running close to 700bhp. The kit I am looking at only gives you around 530bhp with 100 cell cats and zorst. Still its only a remap away from 650bhp! VF are doing a charger conversion for the M3, but not for the CSL and only runs up to 480bhp (still alot really!). It is however more expensive and the only place that installs in the country, although is near to me, is not nearly as experienced as the place installing ESS kits. The ESS kit is also far more proven and sell more kits to BMW owners than any other charger company. Im not sure. I will test a car with the 530 conversion in about three weeks but have a feeling the car will be just too quick. I dont want to spoil it but who knows the best until they have tried it ay! Interesting to hear your thoughts Decked. I often pondered doing the upgrade to the R32 but was always put off by the problem with belt stretching and slippage. It doesn't have an automatic tichtner like the BMW does it? They may well be better now since I looked. What power are you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkyle Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 The belt can be changed/adjusted when necessary at normal service intervals and U can always have it adjusted if u feel it slipping, it just depends on how far you are from the place u get it fitted. dont know much about the supercharger for the golf or the bmw but i use to have a tuned G60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The kit I am looking at only gives you around 530bhp with 100 cell cats and zorst. Still its only a remap away from 650bhp! [/ QUOTE ] An additional 120bhp from a remap ....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I think thats right. Just give it more boost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianharvey Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 woppum are you on about the ESS VT2 that runs at 5.5psi,giving 510hp?cos isnt that the old one that was launched in 2003?i think tony is getting the new one from ESS some time now on his csl,correct me if im wrong.I was told by simpsons to expect a charger for the M3/csl in september that cost alot less than the present solutions.i was told in the region of £5k,which is alot less than the VT2 which i think fitted works out at around £8.7k.if im right about the above then this is the old charger you are talking of which has a liquid intercooler(think simpsons didnt like that design) http://www.ca-automotive.co.uk/single_prod.php?prod_id=1617 and this is the new charger with air intercooler http://www.ca-automotive.co.uk/single_prod.php?prod_id=1837 this one develops 470RWHP at 7psi-550hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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