v6tas Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 This should be of interest to any MK5 owners fancying a tweak or two !. Linky 1 ............. Linky 2 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Interesting, very interesting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 ....The downside is that MTM seem to focus more on high performance than everyday road driveability. Also, what's the reliability going to be like? Very interesting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Do you mean you've read about one car that had reliability problems, or that from experience, every car they've ever modified for customers has had long term reliability problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Very interesting indeed. Good find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medway Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 If onlt there was an MTM dealership in Doha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 [ QUOTE ] If onlt there was an MTM dealership in Doha... [/ QUOTE ] Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medway Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 It's where I live.......for the time being Doha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_H Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Can you get a beer there easily?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Do you mean you've read about one car that had reliability problems, or that from experience, every car they've ever modified for customers has had long term reliability problems? [/ QUOTE ] ....One car I've read about (an RS4) and one car I've known (a GTI). The more you push the envelope of performance, the more you risk reliability - That statement is surely beyond debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I've been speaking to a chap who just got his Mk5 R32 back from MTM with a turbo fitted. I'm sure it was an HPA FT400 turbo rather than an MTM 400bhp turbo. It could be a different car but the spec sounds the same. Has anyone read the mag yet? Is it an HPA rebadged? As far as I know he's not had any issues with his kit fitted by MTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Here we go again... This is going to get me all worked up on the HPA issue again damn it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 ..i have the mag in my grubby paws there was only 2 left in whsmiths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Important question is does it make the same noise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogdan Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 It is not the same noise, it's a much better one together with a turbo whisler all along the rev range. It is the best sound I've ever heared in an R32. As for the reliability issue, I am already 10 000 km and no problems what so ever, and believe me, I didn't drive her like my granny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 [ QUOTE ] As far as I know he's not had any issues with his kit fitted by MTM [/ QUOTE ] I'd agree with that and refer back to my question to RedRobin and his reply. Yes, if you push a car way beyond its limits, it's going to be less reliable. One of the problems some people have experienced with MTM upgrades hasn't been to do with MTM themselves, it's been with their UK agent, QST. This is historical, however, and, AFAIK, there's not been problems of late. Keith, yes, I reckon it's a rebadged FT400 kit, which is actually a rebadged kit from the German manufacturer, but I can't remember their name just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Is it HGP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] As far as I know he's not had any issues with his kit fitted by MTM [/ QUOTE ] I'd agree with that and refer back to my question to RedRobin and his reply. Yes, if you push a car way beyond its limits, it's going to be less reliable. One of the problems some people have experienced with MTM upgrades hasn't been to do with MTM themselves, it's been with their UK agent, QST. This is historical, however, and, AFAIK, there's not been problems of late. [/ QUOTE ] ....I was trying to avoid mentioning QST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Is it HGP? [/ QUOTE ] That's the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 [ QUOTE ] ....I was trying to avoid mentioning QST. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFredR32 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 So is it HGP that are the original manufacturers of the kit and HPA, MTM etc re brand the kit? I had a look at there website a while back but could not seem to get a decent translation to english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 ....Because I have a fairly low opinion of Kim Collins regarding customer relations but I don't want to get into a slanging match - It's only my opinion. I'm sure that most tuners have one or two customers who are dissatisfied with some aspect of a service. We can't warm to everyone we meet. Enough said and back on topic: It sounds as if the MTM conversion is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 [ QUOTE ] So is it HGP that are the original manufacturers of the kit and HPA, MTM etc re brand the kit? [/ QUOTE ] HPA definitely rebrand the HGP kit. Not sure about MTM, but it's highly likely. Not read the article, but I could tell if I saw the photo of the engine bay with it fitted MTM have probably written their own map though - it's what they do for most conversions - buy the hardware, then make the ancillaries and write the map for the Euro market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 [ QUOTE ] ....Because I have a fairly low opinion of Kim Collins regarding customer relations but I don't want to get into a slanging match - It's only my opinion. I'm sure that most tuners have one or two customers who are dissatisfied with some aspect of a service. We can't warm to everyone we meet. Enough said and back on topic: It sounds as if the MTM conversion is awesome. [/ QUOTE ] No, that's a valid point and very relevant to this thread, Robin - if MTM's only route to market in the UK is QST and they've still got duff customer service, it may impact on someone's decision to fit the kit. That was exactly my reason for my original posting querying your comment - now you've answered that, it's more relevant to a group of people interested in the conversion than "I've heard they're crap" We had similar discussions a couple of years ago w.r.t the VF Engineering supercharger conversion for the Mk4. Regal Autosport are the UK importers, but most every car that had a kit fitted by them ended up at AmD, because the GIAC remap for it wasn't written for the UK market (fuelling differences). AmD wrote their own map for it and everything was going really well until they went under and were bought out by Big Boys Toys. The original software engineer who worked for AmD, however, now writes remaps for APS www.autops.co.uk Similar discussions again w.r.t. the HPA turbo conversion for the Mk4, which was being imported and fitted by VagTech at the time. It all sounded great until you found out he wanted the car for three months to fit the kit for you because, at the time, he was a two man operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 That same engineer did the initial MkV remap at AMD a while ago on my car when it had the first Milltek/reamp on a MkV, and he did a fantastic job. He then went on to do a custom remap on my car after it had the Milltek manifolds/cat/cat back and Schrick cams fitted last year and I must say, it's an excellent job. Hence my car goes in to APS all the time. The HPA Turbo kits have proven reliability, it's then down to the tuners that fit it and remap the car. If I were getting it done, it'd most likely be with John at Vagtech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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