steelwind101 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Oh yes the weather must be bad its sooo quiet on here! I have a host of new products i want to try out thoughly including some new wheel cleaners, Bilberry and Very Cherry. Meguiars #62 car shampoo and some Bilthamber shampoo! All i have used but just not around to giving them all a good testing. My Wolfgang 3.0 is beading like a good one on the Auris for over a month now! No pics but as soon as weather allows for a bit brightness i will get some. Its really making it easier to clean when i have had the chance to wash it! Anyone else itching to get back out there?!. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yep, I want to give the new Q7 the zymol treatment, but it's at least a days work, possibly a day and a half with wheels included... it's finding that amount of time at the weekend when the weather is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAvant Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I gave the car a quicky this morning...It was looking very sorry for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I just wanna give the car a good wash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I gave the car a quicky this morning...It was looking very sorry for itself. I've never given a car a quicky before, you must really love that car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAvant Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I've never given a car a quicky before, you must really love that car... Considering how the weather was, its must be love for me to get bucket out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I read many good report on the bilberry wheel cleaner Geoff. Looking at the forecast though, the weekend is not looking good for car grooming.....again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi TT!! I can tell you having used both already, the Very Cherry a similar product coming from a DW registered supplier i wont be buying either again! They seem to both boast good dilution raios which is nice but consider how often you acutally need to use a wheel cleaner £14 for P21s or £5 from Skoda or £10 from Audi makes it all a bit silly. My main gripe is both require foaming heads to do any serious cleaning. The foam is pretty inaccurate to get on the tyres and not on the paintwork for cars like low-slung, big wheeled SR Auris. Fire it at close range you get less foam and more liquid which is just only slightly slicker then water and has no cleaning power! Similar issues with doing the insides of the wheels getting it foamie in there isnt possible while the foam that comes from the gel type cleaners is thicker and clings better. Inhonesty these are nothing more then APC/TFR's. Lubrication is minimal over the gel type cleaners, and its the little scratches made by dragging tar, brushes and brake dust that make a wheel look dull. It can fill with road dust and deflect light just like swirls in the paintwork. I notice also Bilberry for its "acid free" claims does not run neutral PH balance either, its about a 10. On the wheel faces, where you can get it foamed up it certantly cleans. Get it on the tyres and even when you think there clean the foam soon turns a brown colour, scrub a little and you get a good clean tyre. Got to say, i have never tried #62 car shampoo but its go to be Meguiars best shampoo! Its better then Shampoo plus which is very much like Gold Class and to boot lots of guys are selling it for £10-£15 which is often better then Shampoo plus! Oh well cant get back out and try out the wheel cleaners in a "maintence way" before i get a couple of coats of EGP on the Lancer. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hmm, thanks for your thoughts Geoff. I recently bought some of Autoglyms Custom Wheel cleaner (the gentle acid free one). I just can't get on with the foaming head either. It doesn't get to the inner part of the wheel and it's difficults to get even coverage. Neither does it seem to shift stains either. I'm surprised to hear about Bilberry - seems to be 'all the rage' on DW. It's so tempting to keep trying new stuff but its disappointing when they fail to meet expectations, especially when they are expensive too. Must make a trip to a Skoda dealer some time soon for their cleaner then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi TT I think majority of those who are cleaning for a living are not using it, its not a bad cleaner its just very good at the wheel faces the rest its not so good. Most probably bandwagon syndrome but its only £8 a bottle get yourself a foaming head and you have got 2 litres of more of wheel cleaner! When i seal the wheels i only ever use a cleaner on them every 10-12 weeks but by that time they, esp. the inners need a "good" clean up. If you wash and go often then it might be good as its getting a cleaning action more often. I cannot recommend "finger pocket" applicators from Cobra for applying EGP to the wheels or any other sealant to wheels for that matter! Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Is there something wrong with standard car shampoo? Managed to get the whole of my car cleaned yesterday using Zymol shampoo with 1cm of snow foam in a Karcher foam lance and then washed with a bucket of Zymol shampoo for the body and one for the wheels and the car has come up a treat. I must admit to being sceptical of how good some of these specific wheel cleaners are especially in winter weather. each of the alloys took 10 minutes to do, inside and out, cleaned of tar spots with Megs stage 1 paint cleaner and then coated twice with AG Alloy Wheel Seal. Look just as good as when I clay them, CG EZ Creme Glaze, AG SRP and the EGP them. Time will tell if they are as durable but the time taken to do the former to the latter is significantly quicker (up to 4 hours to do 4 wheels the other way) and far preferred with dark days. BTW, a thorough thumbs up for AG Aqua Wax as an interim and easy to apply wax, especially now as I have found a source that supplies for £8 a time rather than Halfrauds £12.99 Brings sprint blue paintwork up a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Hello PG Im a shampoo and water person myself too, however i find that after a while (probably doing 15-16K a yr in city traffic) i get a lot of stubbon build up, esp. in the insides of the wheels. I often need something a bit more potent to get it off, hence the wheel cleaners. I must say, i quite like looking at the brake dust and tyre grime rolling off when they get cleaned too! hehe....weird! Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 I've got some Bilberry if you would like me to send you a sample Geoff.... Oh yes the weather must be bad its sooo quiet on here!I have a host of new products i want to try out thoughly including some new wheel cleaners, Bilberry and Very Cherry. Meguiars #62 car shampoo and some Bilthamber shampoo! All i have used but just not around to giving them all a good testing. My Wolfgang 3.0 is beading like a good one on the Auris for over a month now! No pics but as soon as weather allows for a bit brightness i will get some. Its really making it easier to clean when i have had the chance to wash it! Anyone else itching to get back out there?!. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hi Dibbs! Thanks for the offer, what i meant was that i have a whole host of new products, there acutally in my garage waiting to be used! Atleast they have now been used, today was a cool clear sky day in West Essex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 If the weather is nice this weekend I'll be zymol-ing the Q7.. did the wheels on weds.. look superb And meguires tyre dressing is still the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 If the weather is nice this weekend I'll be zymol-ing the Q7.. did the wheels on weds.. look superb And meguires tyre dressing is still the best Blackfire Tyre Dressing Dave, Blackfire ! Not as shiny as the Megs stuff...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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