News_Stig Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 This is from the News Section. Information on the forthcoming Golf R20........ http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/tsn-motor-news/120406-golf-r20.html#post1431802 Your thoughts please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Your thoughts please! Poo.Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Superb! If I was in the market for a steaming hot hatch, this would be it. After all, it will be the fastest, most tunable, highest quality and most sought after hot hatch on the road. Bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I think it will be a cracker. Whilst the R32 is a superb car with a great soundtrack, by comparison it's a big lazy heavy engine punching below it's weight. Can't really tell the looks from those pics but I don't think it will disappoint anyone who already finds the MKV & MKVI acceptable in the looks department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 .... I'm afraid that I was hoping for something which looked a bit more hardcore. It just looks like a Mk6 (which I don't like the styling of) with a Rocco R front. At least the R20 has a more attractive exhaust config than the wheelbarrow Mk6 GTI. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) On the Golf R mk6 The golf R bumper been the same as the scirocco R may then include the DRL LEDs the scirocco has maybe?. The side skirts are a nice addition imo. The return of the R rear centre pipes are too. Im guessing it will get the 18s and the optional 19s of the scirocco R known VW. I also think i spy the LED rear lights. VW have never done hardcore, sorry thats left to other companys in the past like Ford, honda, Peugeot and the like. Its not in Volkswagens nature. SEAT was 'suppose' to be the more focused brand ie slightly more hardcore but they get held back! In the news it talks about the RS as its rival. The RS is a heavy beast (no idea why) so the extra weight of the '4x4' R golf will not hinder it. Performance similar to the Audi S3 afterall its basically that car with peoples car cloths on rather than sundays best, probably the same price too lol. Edited August 16, 2009 by Snoopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 .... Good thinking, Geoff Right about 'hardcore' too but it doesn't stop me wishing - Still, that's what the aftermarket is for. I love your Sunday Best clothes comparison - I've always preferred jeans 'n T-shirt to a stuffy suit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ92 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 ....I'm afraid that I was hoping for something which looked a bit more hardcore. It just looks like a Mk6 (which I don't like the styling of) with a Rocco R front. At least the R20 has a more attractive exhaust config than the wheelbarrow Mk6 GTI. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Totally agree with you Red,we will just have to wait and see what vw turn out!I just hope it doesn't disappoint.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timski Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 When is the Frankfurt Motor Show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 When is the Frankfurt Motor Show? I seem to recall it being late Sept. May be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 .... Hmmm....I won't be far from Frankfurt if it's very late September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 ....Hmmm....I won't be far from Frankfurt if it's very late September. I've just established it's 15th - 27th September Don't forget your camera Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Yeah take loads of pictures of the Golf R20...... engine bay, suspension, brake system, alloys, exhaust, interior and nice body shots Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I've just established it's 15th - 27th September Don't forget your camera Robin ....I'll be travelling to The Ring with others and not until after the show ends, so unfortunately it won't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah take loads of pictures of the Golf R20...... engine bay, suspension, brake system, alloys, exhaust, interior and nice body shots Riz Not that you're interested or anything in the R32 replacement, Riz, just curious, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I think it'll looks quite good. I prefer the pipes in the middle as the ones on the GTi look nasty IMO. Lower it a bit with some funky wheels and it'll be fine! A bit of Revo treatment and it'll be spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 The problem i see is price and availability. From experience Its easier to find a needle in a feild of haystacks than get an ok deal on a mk6 GTI. Hens teeth are easier! Even then its very very expensive. So im sure VW will do the same with the R and it will be even more expensive and harder to get. Were as you can get a large discount on an S3 (less than £25K for one now) which will make the R look very expensive in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 The problem i see is price and availability. From experience Its easier to find a needle in a feild of haystacks than get an ok deal on a mk6 GTI. Hens teeth are easier! Even then its very very expensive. So im sure VW will do the same with the R and it will be even more expensive and harder to get. Were as you can get a large discount on an S3 (less than £25K for one now) which will make the R look very expensive in my eyes. ....Or in other words, VW have us by the short and curlies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timski Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Can you really get a brand new S3 from an Audi dealer for £25k? Decked, viewed your photos on Flickr - quality motor you've got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) Not that you're interested or anything in the R32 replacement, Riz, just curious, huh? Well I still keep a eye out on newer models etc, wont be parting with the original though.... I`m not too intrested in more power etc. If I could afford it I wouldnt mind another .:R car...... Riz Edited August 20, 2009 by Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) I read today that Seat are launching a MK2 Cupra R with the 265bhp engine as per the Rocco R. SEATCupra.net - Your #1 source for SEAT information - New SEAT Leon CUPRA R to debut at Frankfurt Motorshow If the pricing is right that should put a bit of pressure on the GTI. I certainly know when I bought my MK1 Cupra R in 2002 the GTI at the time was underpowered by comparison and did not offer value for money IMO. History could be repeating itself Are we 100% sure the R20 will have a Haldex bearing in mind others are FWD? Edited August 21, 2009 by Cuprabob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I read today that Seat are launching a MK2 Cupra R with the 265bhp engine as per the Rocco R That would certainly capture the section of the market that couldn't afford the VW R offering. Very cleverly placed I'd say. The looks are subjective, but there again everything is. I now really like the MKVI GTI whereas before I couldn't gety my head around the design. There again, I've never appreciated Seat's design, so not sure if I could learn to like it's lines. However, as a VW R contender, it sure looks placed to sell well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I don't like the MK2 Leon much to be onest but I did like the original MK1 Cupra R hence why I owned one. As I understand it, this offering from SEAT will also have a lot of standard kit, which are options on the GTI. I don't see this as competition to the to the Golf R but to the standard GTI as I'm pretty sure it will be around that price break. But I guess the ED35 will get the 265bp engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Can you really get a brand new S3 from an Audi dealer for £25k? Decked, viewed your photos on Flickr - quality motor you've got there. New Audi A3 S3 quattro 3 Door Discount Prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Wow, at that price I know where my money would go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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