Cuprabob Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Looks nice but I actually prefer the look of the scirocco for a change here.. Am i Right in thinking the scirocco isn't all wheel drive though? You're right Rocco R is FWD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 .... I've never driven a 4motion - Is it similar to the '4WD' system on the R32? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 ....I've never driven a 4motion - Is it similar to the '4WD' system on the R32? They are one in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just out of interest I just tried the config. tool and specced up as close as possible to the R32 that I currently have. It came out at just over £36.5k which is only £7.5k more than I paid for my R32 new in 2006. It'll take a lot of miles to recover that by the better fuel economy and lower road tax And no doubt VW will have their usual annual price rise early 2010 as well and also not sure if when VAT goes back up to 17.5% if that will put the price up as well. Just as well we're not in a recession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Im shocked by Volkswagen`s pricing, was seriously thinking it would come in at £26k for the Golf. For me anything over £30k is just too much for a small hatchback, but that`s due to my personal preference. I do like the R Golf as a car though and will probably take a test drive if given the chance...... but I could never part with my MK4. If I had the money in a ideal world I would buy one and still keep the MK4. Use the Golf R for daily use due to cheaper running costs and keep the MK4 mint as possible. Eitherway If I see a Golf R on the roads, the driver will get respect from me, as long as I get it back....... Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 ....Dunno when they'll appear in the UK but Oli has found out that basically the 3 door starts @ £28,930 in manual form and goes up to £30,820 in 5 door DSG. This is without the extra options. The Recaro option in leather for a 5-door adds £3,325! People are doubtless going to mutter things about buying S3's and used RS4's etc for the same money but whereas I think it's very expensive, buying a car isn't just about money but just as much about what suits your lifestyle and needs mixed with simply whether it excites you or not to drive. Maybe so BUT It will have to be a hell of a lot better to drive than the S3 to justify the larger price (~4K), low spec and lower badge than the S3, and i just cannot see it. I wait and see but i think people who are ordering before even trying it are simply barmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Maybe so BUT It will have to be a hell of a lot better to drive than the S3 to justify the larger price (~4K), low spec and lower badge than the S3, and i just cannot see it. I wait and see but i think people who are ordering before even trying it are simply barmy. Again, it's subjective, Snoopy. The latest R is bound to stir desire and emotion and get people wanting to own VW hottest model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahankins Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 B'Jeezers, this is one expensive beast. Spec'd one as close to my current R32 as I could and it was 7 grand more! Stick Recaros in and this thing will be over 40k. I can't understand the pricing, that's treading on the toes of some very interesting competition. MIght as well throw another 10k at it and look at a TT-RS. Still want one of course........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 MIght as well throw another 10k at it and look at a TT-RS. Which is over-priced as well. You can buy a Cayman for TTRS money. Bonkers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 £40k I do think this will have a positive effect on 2nd hand prices for the V6`s. So thanks a lot Volkswagen... perhaps they have taken onboard Porsche pricing schemes? Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I do think this will have a positive effect on 2nd hand prices for the V6`s. Why? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Why? :confused: Why not?Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'll re-phrase the question - what is it about VW selling a Mk6 2.0 T with AWD that'll make the value of Mk4 and Mk5 R32s retain or increase in value? And you can't answer "why not?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'll re-phrase the question - what is it about VW selling a Mk6 2.0 T with AWD that'll make the value of Mk4 and Mk5 R32s retain or increase in value?And you can't answer "why not?" Well I feel that the true hardcore Volkswageners go into two groups, ones who are for the V6 and ones who are not. I can remember that a lot of the members on the R32 forums when out and rushed to buy the last of the V6`s due to VW`s move to use the 2.0T block.Prices have already gone up and have been doing so albeit in small increments. Check out glasses guide prices. The prices really took a knock when we had the fuel crisis and as the markets crashed. I dont class the 2.0T are a direct replacement to the R32, its a new direction with a new logo etc. The originals have the potential to become classic`s in years to come....... Anyways leave me alone, I dont care as I`ve got mine Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Anyways leave me alone, I dont care as I`ve got mine :buttcheeks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ttm4son Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Well I feel that the true hardcore Volkswageners go into two groups, ones who are for the V6 and ones who are not. I can remember that a lot of the members on the R32 forums when out and rushed to buy the last of the V6`s due to VW`s move to use the 2.0T block.Prices have already gone up and have been doing so albeit in small increments. Check out glasses guide prices. The prices really took a knock when we had the fuel crisis and as the markets crashed. I dont class the 2.0T are a direct replacement to the R32, its a new direction with a new logo etc. The originals have the potential to become classic`s in years to come....... Anyways leave me alone, I dont care as I`ve got mine Riz I'm inclined to agree. The 6 pot was always something a little special IMO and could demand the prestige price tag. This new direction with the R just seems to be an anni. Ed. with an R badge, a very expensive R badge. Although it does have 4WD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's an S3 in a Golf body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's an S3 in a Golf body ....In my opinion that's a good thing - I much prefer the looks of the Golf to the currently available S3. RS3 Sportback with S-tronic would be a different matter, but so would the cost. Similarly either a Golf or Audi 3-series would be very attractive with the 2.5T 5-cyl engine. But again the costs would be on par or pro rata with the new Golf R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hmmmm I do really like the look and thought of owning the new R.........but I have just config'd it and it comes out at close to £35k for similar spec to my S3. I really dont think I am prepared to pay that much for something which is essentially the same car, but probably slightly worse build quality. Out of interest, my Mk 4 R32 cost brand new £22,340 (sad, but I can remember the figure!) in 2003. Using an online RPI calculator, that should be £26,600 6 years later. So the base 'R' model has increased at double the rate of inflation over the last 6 years. Obviously VW dont do recessions. Not sure I can justify £35k for a Golf, albeit a very nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Obviously VW dont do recessions. Nor does the UK/Euro exchange rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 HmmmmI do really like the look and thought of owning the new R.........but I have just config'd it and it comes out at close to £35k for similar spec to my S3. I really dont think I am prepared to pay that much for something which is essentially the same car, but probably slightly worse build quality. Out of interest, my Mk 4 R32 cost brand new £22,340 (sad, but I can remember the figure!) in 2003. Using an online RPI calculator, that should be £26,600 6 years later. So the base 'R' model has increased at double the rate of inflation over the last 6 years. Obviously VW dont do recessions. Not sure I can justify £35k for a Golf, albeit a very nice one. 2004 Volkswagen Model Year - Golf R32 Price list Issue 7 3dr £22,608.00 5dr £23,228.00 Options:- Cruise control £180.00 Full leather Koenig seats £1900.00 Half leather Koenig seats £1200.00 Sat navigation £2100.00 Sunroof £460.00 Delta radio/cd £225.00 Thats what I liked about a lot of older cars, nearly everything was standard....... Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ttm4son Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 2004 Volkswagen Model Year - Golf R32 Price list Issue 73dr £22,608.00 5dr £23,228.00 Options:- Cruise control £180.00 Full leather Koenig seats £1900.00 Half leather Koenig seats £1200.00 Sat navigation £2100.00 Sunroof £460.00 Delta radio/cd £225.00 Thats what I liked about a lot of older cars, nearly everything was standard....... Riz I think VW are starting to learn a thing or two from BMW about pricing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I really dont think I am prepared to pay that much for something which is essentially the same car, but probably slightly worse build quality. Isn't it essentially the same car but very different? Probably slightly worse build quality? Probably slightly? Does that really matter? Not sure I can justify £35k for a Golf, albeit a very nice one. But you justified it for a S3? Is the general concensus about this car really a fair one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Its just a Golf...... made by Volkswagen......... Audi is a upper class brand... better build and status....... MK1 GTi MK3 VR6 MK4 R32 The best! Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 It certainly makes the new Seat Leon Cupra R, with the same 265bhp engine at around £22k seem like good value albeit there's no Haldex. If they had just kept the price similar or within £1k of the MKV it would have been a blinder. IIRC that was around £24k base for manual and £25.5k base for DSG The MKVI is supposed to be significantly cheaper to build as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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