JamesCB Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 What are peoples thoughts on the new Audi A4 facelift? Only big change seems to be fuel consumption is down 11% throughout the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Looks cheaper to me, giving it the A1's front end hasn't helped that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Looks cheaper to me, giving it the A1's front end hasn't helped that either. I quite like it but the key is it needs to drive better and have they sorted the offset pedals. Cant believe the S4's figure very impressive for MPG, Co2 and 0-60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 The only visual difference I can see is a marginal improvement on the horrible wavy cocklights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 The only visual difference I can see is a marginal improvement on the horrible wavy cocklights. Really? I thought they were worse, as they've extended them right around the headlight instead of just along the bottom. So I've had another look and I can kinda see what you mean, they are one continuous line now, as opposed to very obvious individual LED's, and despite the extra length, seem a bit less in your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 A midlife refresh, like the B7 was of the B6, only this is almost unnoticeable (except to an anorak). All about persuading some gullible people to part with their hard-earned cash in case someone notices they don't have the latest model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 It looks a little depressed to me. The internal upgrades sound worthwhile but it's where it should have been three years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Really not sure on that front end. Had a new shape A6 saloon following me yesterday and I didn't like the view I had in the mirror. This looks the same. Blander than the current model methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hashluck Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Front end all gone wrong on A4 and A5. Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 The consumption figures are great! Has to be, to compete with the new 3 series figures. And quattro available on the 2.0TDi too - should boost sales there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korkster Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Not sure Audi have got the front ends right on the A4 or 5. If you lil at the front lights on the A4 and A5 they are basically the same, but DRL strip inverted. Saying that the A4 in pictures looks marginally better. As per Scotty the interior upgrades are worthwhile with 7 digit Postcode search and Google maps based Nav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 7 digit Postcode search Something they should have done 5 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Had it on my Subaru 7 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Engines On the diesel side, Audi has modified its popular 2.0-litre four-cylinder common rail TDI engine with what it describes as ‘a pendulum-type absorber’ in the dual mass flywheel. This has been adopted in some, but not all, variants. The frugal oilburner now comes in no less than five different states of tune: 118bhp, 134bhp, 141bhp, 161bhp and 175bhp – the most economical of which is the 134bhp version that is claimed to return combined cycle consumption of 67.3mpg for CO2 emissions of just 112g/km. Two 3.0-litre six-cylinder TDI units are also available in 204bhp and 245bhp guises. Doesnt this seem a bit overkill in terms of diesel variants ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 So what is the purpose of this 'pendulum-type absorber'? Is it to increase economy, or reliablity? The cynic in me says it's for economy, and will make the DMF even more unreliable. I'm not suggesting that failing DMF's are an Audi problem BTW, it's something all manufacturers need to sort out, a flywheel should not be a disposable commodity, and should last the life of the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 EnginesOn the diesel side, Audi has modified its popular 2.0-litre four-cylinder common rail TDI engine with what it describes as ‘a pendulum-type absorber’ in the dual mass flywheel. This has been adopted in some, but not all, variants. The frugal oilburner now comes in no less than five different states of tune: 118bhp, 134bhp, 141bhp, 161bhp and 175bhp – the most economical of which is the 134bhp version that is claimed to return combined cycle consumption of 67.3mpg for CO2 emissions of just 112g/km. Two 3.0-litre six-cylinder TDI units are also available in 204bhp and 245bhp guises. Doesnt this seem a bit overkill in terms of diesel variants ? Diesel is where it's at if they want to convince people NOT to buy a Pious/hybrid offering. The company car market demands it. They've copied Mercedes by using the same V6 TDi but with different outputs and other subtlties. Also, BMW have the 116d/118d & 120d - same(ish) engine but with different outputs. Remember they had the old 2.6 V6 in about 5 different guises too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 As per Scotty the interior upgrades are worthwhile with 7 digit Postcode search and Google maps based Nav Exactly. Since they're introducing the new satnav I know there's no chance of them sorting out the roundabout issue on my 3G version .... so on Friday I agreed to £1000 good will gesture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesCB Posted October 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 The only visual difference I can see is a marginal improvement on the horrible wavy cocklights. Link here wide shots of facelift one next to new one. Isn't easy to spot the differences - Audi A4 Facelift - Whats Different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I am waiting for the B9 as the B8 has never done it for me. It all went downhill when I sat in it and my back did not like the clutch position - the main reason I had come to Audi from BMW - so I just started looking for things I did not like. I hope that the new A3 has the pedals in the correct location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 It's all a bit, well, the same, isn't it, the new A4. Same as the new 3 series - a bit, well, the same. Tipex, the absorber is for smoother running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Yes I was just wondering how it differed from a normal type DMF? And more importantly, if it will be more reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Link here wide shots of facelift one next to new one. Isn't easy to spot the differences - Audi A4 Facelift - Whats Different? I wonder if they labelled the new Interior shot as old and vice versa deliberately ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Not sure what people were expecting, it's a mid-cycle refresh, just like any other manufacturer and model. Tweek the lights, add or smooth a few curves, tweek the interior, play with the engine line up and maybe launch a few 'special editions' when the facelift model comes out. All the big manufacturers do it, it helps maintain momentum in the second half of a model's life, it's nothing new. What's the average life of a car these days? 6 years? 7 years? Facelifted A4 for 2012 and all new A4 for 2015 (which incidentally will probably be as big as the current A8 ). If people didn't like it before, they aren't going to like it now. I didn't, and don't, like the saloon and the avant is very colour sensitive in my opinion. Sometimes it looks good and others, it looks like an A6 barge. As for the improved mpg figures, I don't believe a word of it. I've never get anywhere close to Audi's claimed figures and the latest "10% better" ones will be equally unobtainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 As for the improved mpg figures, I don't believe a word of it. I've never get anywhere close to Audi's claimed figures and the latest "10% better" ones will be equally unobtainable. They might even be less attainable, as the fuelling will have been even more optimised to provide good numbers on the EU standard cycles - which usually means even worse drivability in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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