Andy_Bangle Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 The Nissan DeltaWing team is in fightback mode after Gunnar Jeannette was forced into a roll after a 7G impact from a Porsche GTC class car in testing at Road Atlanta. deltawing - News - GUNNAR JEANNETTE TALKS ABOUT ROAD ATLANTA CRASH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Ooops Bet he's glad they ticked the option for roll-over protection bar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 That is nasty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 How on earth could he not see it? Very lucky on both counts. Firstly the Nissan driver for obvious reasons, secondly the Porsche driver for not having somebodies death on his mind for the rest of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Glad there wasn't a curb there or a wheel, if you look carefully the right side mirror probably saved Gunnar's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Wowzers! He was lucky. Loving the fact that seconds after nearly dying he berates the Porsche driver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Glad there wasn't a curb there or a wheel, if you look carefully the right side mirror probably saved Gunnar's head. I'd be surprised if a mirror could withstand that? If it could, it would be a prime candidate for some weight reduction, surely? I'm pretty sure FIA requirements for all race cars include roll-over protection for the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ttm4son Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I hope, by design, he was further away from being killed than it appears. What a mug of a Porka driver. Grosjean interviewing for a new team? Far far too easy to get that delta to roll. All the other teams will notice that in case they are battling at the last corner, or is that just me on Gran Turismo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Delta Wing, the Robin Reliant of the racing world! Awful things those, looked ridiculously poor at Le-Mans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Delta Wing, the Robin Reliant of the racing world!Awful things those, looked ridiculously poor at Le-Mans. ...except its got 4 wheels! Which version of LM were you watching? For a revolutionary prototype it was running a reasonable LMP2 pace until it was crashed out by an LMP1 Toyota......The delta wing will also have a formal classification for the 2013 ALMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yes I know it's got 4 wheels but you know what I meant. It looked awfully unstable and seemed to suffer from a lot of understeer, and was very twitchy during the Le-Mans 24hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 That was something that's i'd be surprised to see from Schumacher in his prime, vicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Wowzers! He was lucky. Loving the fact that seconds after nearly dying he berates the Porsche driver! Gunnar is a chilled out dude, not much scares him. This is what he does on his days off: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) This is what he does on his days off: Oh - he's THAT guy! No wonder he was gesticulating at the Porsche driver, he was probably bored and annoyed the Porsche guy hadn't done something properly exciting... Anyway, I don't see the point of those squirrel suit things. There's no benefit to science or society, why do they bother? Edited October 18, 2012 by patently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Anyway, I don't see the point of those squirrel suit things. There's no benefit to science or society, why do they bother? 'Cos they are stupid! On a more serious note, why not ask the wonderful ladies and gents who have to scrape up their smeared corpses what they think of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Watching that a couple of times has left me thinking that there is a monstrous design flaw in the Delta Wing design. Tapping a regular car in the rear quarter or side would probably result in a small slide or nothing at all. The stability of a 'regular' four corner wheel platform is proven. In the instance of the Delta Wing, tapping the rear quarter and having such a narrow track on the front led to the front rolling over as there was no front right hand corner wheel to push back on, exactly like how a Reliant Robin rolls over. Watch it a few times and I think you'll see what I mean. Its admirable that they have decided to look at a different design, but ultimately a wheel on each corner has been around for a long time, is proven to be far more stable and leaves the Nissan looking a little form over function, and potentially a dangerous one at that. I would expect the FIA (or whoever is the governing body) to have a closer look at the design now, regardless of the driver being fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Look at that video again, guys - I reckon the Nissan driver is not entirely blameless. If he knew the circuit (and if he didn't know the circuit then he should have been taking it slower) he would know that the green Porsche driver was going to run out of road and face the concrete bridge support (bad circuit design to leave that unprotected anyway). The Porsche driver wasn't given any choice but to move right to avoid the bridge and there was plenty of room for the Nissan driver to move right to allow the Porsche space at that speed. Actually, I entirely blame the Nissan driver for forcing his way and running the Porsche out of track. It was avoidable. Regardless of whether the Nisan Deltawing is a clever design or not, its driver was seriously out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Look at that video again, guys - I reckon the Nissan driver is not entirely blameless. If he knew the circuit (and if he didn't know the circuit then he should have been taking it slower) he would know that the green Porsche driver was going to run out of road and face the concrete bridge support (bad circuit design to leave that unprotected anyway). The Porsche driver wasn't given any choice but to move right to avoid the bridge and there was plenty of room for the Nissan driver to move right to allow the Porsche space at that speed.Actually, I entirely blame the Nissan driver for forcing his way and running the Porsche out of track. It was avoidable. Regardless of whether the Nisan Deltawing is a clever design or not, its driver was seriously out of order. Are you serious? Afraid I could not disagree more - yes, the green Porsche runs a little wide but its 100% the Porsches hopeless over correction that pitches it into the side of the Delta Wing! Even before the bridge the Delta Wing had left more than enough space for the Porsche to get through without touching the kerb/grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 The car is rebuilt and ready to race today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I'm always amazed by race mechanics. Stuff that the local dealer would spend at least a week on, they do in an hour or two. :notworthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 The other thing is that the cars are designed to be simple and straightforward to replace sections of. Most consumer cars seem to be the opposite to keep dealers in work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 This is true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Are you serious? Afraid I could not disagree more - yes, the green Porsche runs a little wide but its 100% the Porsches hopeless over correction that pitches it into the side of the Delta Wing!Even before the bridge the Delta Wing had left more than enough space for the Porsche to get through without touching the kerb/grass ....Then perhaps I need to have another, closer, look at the vid. Was it a race or a trackday? If it was a race, then yes every driver is full-on going for every opportunity. But if a trackday, the Nissan driver should have anticipated other drivers more. Just my opinion. Anyway, like most Nissans, the Deltawing is fugly! EDIT: Having looked at the vid more closely I still think that the Nissan driver did not leave enough room for the Porsche and could easily have done so. :buttcheeks: Edited October 21, 2012 by RedRobin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 EDIT: Having looked at the vid more closely I still think that the Nissan driver did not leave enough room for the Porsche and could easily have done so. :buttcheeks: The Delta Wing was in the middle of the track, so lots of room given. If he was any further over then he would compromise his line for the next corner. As a concept the Delta Wing is interesting as it shows what can be achieved for fuel efficiency in motorsport, along with creating downforce without having to resort to wings all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 EDIT: Having looked at the vid more closely I still think that the Nissan driver did not leave enough room for the Porsche and could easily have done so. :buttcheeks: ...should have gone to specsavers! Come on Robin, adjust the bifocals and watch again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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