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I've done an annual oil change anyway :coffee:

That'll be why it went pop then, you should have bought an old nail instead of something in decent nick that's been looked after. :rolleyes:

Oh, and as for depreciation, I thought this was your 'I can't take it with me, so might as well enjoy it' realisation?

F*ck depreciation, if you're worrying about losing a grand or two in however many years you keep it, you shouldn't be f*cking about with cars in the first place!

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2003 was the borderline.  My 996 was an October 2003 build for the 2004MY, January 2004 registration, and is officially on the 2 year service schedule which they had just introduced.  I've done an annual oil change anyway :coffee:

 

Thought I'd seen late 996 GT3s advertised with two year intervals.  Only introduced on the very last 996s then.  Good plan on an additional 12 month oil change, I do the same on the S4.  Oil is cheaper than camchains, tensioners and, er, engines!

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For only £2500 I'll sell you a stoat with a Porsche badge glued to its head and a lego wheel hanging from each leg.

You mean a Cayenne?

Back on topic, TS, if you buy trade and sell privately later you're bound to lose money anyway but I don't think you should be buying a sportscar with your head anyway. It's a sportscar. Life is short. Just feckin' buy the best one you can afford in your budget range and enjoy it +++

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Tipex - I know what you're saying with regards to depreciation. But I'd prefer not to buy something that virtually halves in value the minute I start using it!

 

That dealer does have a decent looking Boxster that's more my thing:

 

http://www.rpmspecialistcars.co.uk/sales/view/68

 

Silver with red leather - the 'classic' Boxster colour combination. With a bit of negotiation, I'd be quite happy with something like that.

 

Williams Crawford have a lovely seal grey example - higher miles, but sensibly priced from a reputable specialist:

 

http://www.williamscrawford.co.uk/yii/explore/index.php?r=site/car&id=119

 

And I've also planned to look at this:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-PORSCHE-BOXSTER-3-2-S-6-SPEED-MANUAL-SILVER-63500-miles-fsh-convertible-/181359201619?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a39d9cd53

 

I'm a little wary of it, but I've got a copy of the magazine which featured this car 12 months ago - the journalist loved it and was tempted to buy it himself.

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And I've also planned to look at this:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-PORSCHE-BOXSTER-3-2-S-6-SPEED-MANUAL-SILVER-63500-miles-fsh-convertible-/181359201619?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a39d9cd53

 

I'm a little wary of it, but I've got a copy of the magazine which featured this car 12 months ago - the journalist loved it and was tempted to buy it himself.

The Journalist will have promised to be nice about it in return for getting use of the thing in a feature. Look at all those "just looking" features in Car and Classic etc, they're all the same, the dealers only let them review/feature the cars if they promise to be nice about it which will help sell it. I'm not saying it's a bad car, but it doesn't excite me either.

Have you tried an S2000 by the way? I'm not feeling the love for all these Boxsters.

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Take a risk and buy one at ADT auction on a reputable dealer day?

Someone on here will know when that is. Chri5 has bought cars from there, but not a Porsche!

Oh I've thought about it, I looked at the Cayman listings on more than 50 occasions. Problem is there are cars out there with 30k miles, 6 years old, fsh and £15k at auction (they look attractive on paper)- the problem being that they will have had 4 log book owners, need dinks sorting, a new set of tyres, full road tax, a service and to top it all the likes of BCA will abuse your arse to the tune of £800 auctioneers fees.

Unless you have access to a great trade structure with suitable discounting in bodywork, tyres, mechanicals, making money on auction cars outside manufactures warranty is near impossible for non trade. However you can save shed loads of money on a buy for personal use car.

There's a c63 at Enfield tomorrow, now there's a (another) thought.

The BCA mob now do condition and mechanical reports on line pre sale, it helps the internet buyers decide.

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Found the near perfect car.

 

2000 Boxster 2.7, silver with red leather. Only 19k miles, full history.... sound pack and sports pack.

 

But... I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any kind of air conditioning! It has the manual 'dial' controls for heating - I believe you only get air-con with the climate pack.

 

A little annoying, as it's up at a very reasonable price (£8.5k) from what appears to be a reputable prestige dealer.

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Found the near perfect car.

 

2000 Boxster 2.7, silver with red leather. Only 19k miles, full history.... sound pack and sports pack.

 

But... I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any kind of air conditioning! It has the manual 'dial' controls for heating - I believe you only get air-con with the climate pack.

 

A little annoying, as it's up at a very reasonable price (£8.5k) from what appears to be a reputable prestige dealer.

 

That's why it's that price!

Can you see an A/C button at all?

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19,000 miles in 14 years.

See, even the previous owner(s) didn't enjoy driving it! Being positive, the lack of a/c will free up a few ponies - god knows you'll need them.

 

Have read that mileage, I would not touch that at all.  19K miles, 14 years, the thing has never been used (let alone abused), so that means many items will have been sitting there without oil, all the fluids probably not getting warmed etc etc.

 

Seals and stuff might have perished or be perishing at a much faster rate than a properly used car.

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I see 8 service invoices in the photo.  Over 14 years, that means he seems to have stuck to a 2-year interval.  I think, but am not certain, that a 1999 car should be on a 1 year/12k miles service interval.  You might want to check that.  For comparison, the history file on my 10-year old 996 is two inches thick (no exaggeration).  If anything, a very lightly used car (which Porsche define as less than 2-4k miles per annum) should be serviced more often than the official schedule says.  I may have a copy of Porsche's "Light User Guide" or similar, I'll try and remember to dig it out for you.

 

Also, how many owners?  If it was specified with 17" wheels and no aircon, it looks as if it was a nothing-from-the-options-list car.  Combined with very low miles, it sounds like someone may have bought a car they couldn't afford to run.  It might be reassuring to hear that it stayed in the original owners hands for a little time as possible.  

 

It's also been freshly serviced so that you can't see as much evidence of neglect?

 

This could be an absolute bargain though; I'd be very tempted in your shoes.  Needs a close look at the car and the history, though +++

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