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Nico, nice Schumi trick. Get pole then make a half mistake to bring out double yellows. At least the nicey nicey is over now and we can get down to proper full on aggressive racing. I can't stand it when drivers get on.

The mind games have begun.

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I've just seen it.

 

That is going to split the team.

 

I also think it was incredibly bad sportsmanship and deliberate.  If I was Hamilton I think I'd try to let it wash over and take it as a sign that Rosberg is starting to feel a bit desperate. 

 

I won't be surprised to see them take each other out in the race.  I can see it coming.

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I see it more like young Schumacher v Hill.

 

To be honest, Rosberg has plummeted in my opinion today.  I didn't think he was that kind of guy and he's got the skill to win races without cheating.

 

I know others on here will say he didn't, but in my view he knew exactly what he was doing - and it was cheating.

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What was your thoughts on it?  I hope to get to see it when I get back.

 

They're running it on IMAX in Doha at Villaggio but I was going to be pretty much the only Englishman in the screen it was on.  I don't mind that and they're all very friendly, but I'm a bit sick of being asked about red phone boxes and snow. :roflmao:

 

As soon as you get to the personal level or they know you're English, the friendly but very fecking annoying interest starts.  It is nice, for a few days.  Then it wears on you.:roflmao:

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With all the information in the world at their disposal the stewards concluded there was no case to answer.

 

That really just makes anyone continuiing to claim it was deliberate look a little bit foolish.

 

And if Rosberg goes on to win tomorrow and Hamilton claims (or implies) cheat - which although many of his dickhead fans will I honestly don't believe Hamilton will - then it will simply shout from the hill tops that he has lost the psychological battle before it has really begun. 

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Trying to remember the last F1 stewards' decision I strongly disagreed with, certainly under the current regime with a former driver on the panel. I'm sure I have but I can't remember any in particular, except for a few in race decisions a couple of years ago that I felt should have been left as racing incidents.

 

In this case, to me it's a pretty straightforward decision, in that they could only punish Rosberg if the telemetry showed significantly different inputs that he or the team couldn't explain. Clearly they can't second guess what was going on in his head.

 

For what it's worth I think Rosberg was pushing hard because he felt Lewis had another couple of tenths in him. The fact he was a tenth down suggests he was pushing too hard. I think he knew he'd got his line and braking wrong as far back as the hump, the sawing at the wheel being an attempt to gather it before deciding discretion is the better part of valour and going for the escape road to avoid damaging the car. If he'd wanted to be sure of ruining Hamilton's lap he'd have ignored the escape road and binned it on the corner. 

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Well I'm foolish then. Blatant cheating. It is opinion at the end of the day and we all have one.

True and you're not alone with that view but if it was cheating it was very clever imo and i just don't think Nico is capable of it (ie being that calculated, not of having the propensity to cheat)

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Trying to remember the last F1 stewards' decision I strongly disagreed with, certainly under the current regime with a former driver on the panel. I'm sure I have but I can't remember any in particular, except for a few in race decisions a couple of years ago that I felt should have been left as racing incidents.

 

In this case, to me it's a pretty straightforward decision, in that they could only punish Rosberg if the telemetry showed significantly different inputs that he or the team couldn't explain. Clearly they can't second guess what was going on in his head.

 

For what it's worth I think Rosberg was pushing hard because he felt Lewis had another couple of tenths in him. The fact he was a tenth down suggests he was pushing too hard. I think he knew he'd got his line and braking wrong as far back as the hump, the sawing at the wheel being an attempt to gather it before deciding discretion is the better part of valour and going for the escape road to avoid damaging the car. If he'd wanted to be sure of ruining Hamilton's lap he'd have ignored the escape road and binned it on the corner.

I agree with all of this

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G' and Way sound like Nico and Ham before Quali yesterday.

Listen, if you're fastest and you try too hard and you cause double yellows for everyone else, then that is a very calculated.

Nico is basically saying they he drove so hard, that he made a mistake. That's very handy when your on pole already.

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A few points.

Nico is as fair a racing driver as I have ever come across. It goes completely against everything he stands for. Both as a racing driver and a man.

You cannot be a cheat if you you have not broken any rules.

Nico's first run in q3 was faster than Lewis's. And he was up on Lewis in the 2nd runs before his mistake.

Lewis has been on the wind up all week, which is very ill advised given his behaviour in Spain. He used an unauthorised engine setting to defend his position in the Barcelona race.

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