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A pint (or 10!!!) usually does the trick. 169144-ok.gif

Failing that do something to make you feel good about yourself...?

Top tip; living with your parents at your age is NOT a confidence builder. Spreading your wings and moving out IS.

Spread those wings young Riz. rafwings.gif

You might have to let go of the R32 and buy a banger to make ends meet but it will be worth it in the end.

Good luck! 169144-ok.gif

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Yes i thought about selling the R32 and moving out but being a part of the family business its about the right timing... afterall eventually i will be able to fund my own place once we expand smile.gif

Yes when ive been drinking im ok with talking with women... but being drunk at work wont be good jump.gif

Riz

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I had the same problem mate, no miricle cure I'm afraid.

Sometimes you just have to do things.

I look at it this way, if it's a women I already know or work with or similar, so being turned down might get awkward, then there's a chance to get more friendly slowley so no need to rush straight in - and time to work out what the answer might be.

If we are talking about women you meet on a night out, what's the worst that can happen, she makes you look like a pratt? Flush.gif

We all look like that sooner or later, and what have you lost? Nothing, just a good excuse for the next drink.

The other thing that might help, talk to a few female friends and find out what approches really don't work. I guess they will say any type of "smooth" line.

Other than that, spend a bit of time on yourself, buy some new clothes, get a haircut, anything to make you feel like your looking you best.

And go for it....

Looks like the R32's not a fanny magnet then? jump.gif

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Yes when ive been drinking im ok with talking with women... but being drunk at work wont be good jump.gif

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A work based relationship - good idea ??

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And, er....it's a family business crazy.gifcrazy.gifconfused.gif

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Oooops our two shops are based indoors in what is called a market call..... the hairdressers is another shop owned by somebody else... grin.gif

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Looks like the R32's not a fanny magnet then?

[/ QUOTE ] Actually it does... but im not one to use my car as a "tool" not that type of guy really..... grin.gif

I pass a fianance office call centre everyday and it has nearly a all female working staff who wait outside on the street.... i drive past SMOKE6.GIF

The car is good but i want a lady for me... and me only..... pengy.gif

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When you see the girl you like, pick your moment.... confidently walk over, tell her she looks really lovely (nothing soppy or mushy) and say you'd really like it if she go out for a drink or something to eat.

Make her feel good about herself and make sure she knows you think she's lovely - it'll work, be sure of that!! Don't try and be something your not, don't act coy or smart, just be relaxed (I know thats not going to be easy) and make her smile - once she smiles of laughs, you've cracked it!

Now go get that girl!!!

PS - I'm married so what do I know smashfreakB.gif

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Now go get that girl!!!

PS - I'm married so what do I know smashfreakB.gif

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grin.gif I reckon thats all good advice ! and it must work, as you managed to convince a lady to marry you 169144-ok.gif169144-ok.gif

One more tip, and don't laugh - dancing ! Riz, can you cut shapes on the dancefloor ? Women love a man who can move grin.gif - apparently it hints to what they are like in other areas than require 'rhythm' wink.gif

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You have to make them laugh Riz!

Think of something funny to say (even taking the pi55 out of yourself) and as said previously, get them laughing.

I was in the sauna last week (everyone minding there own business) and there were 2 really nice girls in there. This bald bloke walked in and said out loud 'Ill apologise to everyone now as im having a bit of a bad hair day today'.

Well everyone just burst out laughing and he got chatting and in the end he arranged to meet one of the girls outside. notworthy.gif

Be persistent and dont bother if they say 'no'.

At least you gave it a go.

If you never even ask you will never, ever, ever get a yes.

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A mate (and yes it really is a mate, its not actually me!) is having the same problem, possibly worse. His confidence is below rock bottom and is just too shy to talk to girls he likes. When ever he does talk to girls he gets too nervous and activates his mouth before his brain and the wrong things come out, like very very bad jokes, or actually insults them badly without realising he has done it!

There are 2 of us, plus our girlfriends that keep trying to play match maker for him, but we are not going to get anywhere until his confidence grows, catch 22!!!!

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Chill.. relax.. be yourself and forget about it.

The more you look and try the worse it can get. Be happy with yourself and feel confident. Be a little mysterious and funny.. and a lucky lady will fall into your arms before you know it.

Oh and I did the sauna thing. Just randomly started talking about what people got just after christmas last year. A very sexy young lady who was in there with her friend started to tell me all about what she had got.. down to some sexy underware.. A week later she came up to me in a local pub and started chatting me up... !!

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Right im female and all this advice is seriously good stuff (possibly not the coke!) The reason why I chose my bloke was because he was totally himself and made me laugh and laugh! The number one rule is to be confident about yourself dont run the conversation through your head just play it by ear. 'can i buy you a drink' does usually work as it breaks the ice and shows you can be generous even if you get a no at the end of the night.

TBH im very happy being a girl we rarely have to worry about this stuff u poor men get it tough sometimes..

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Right im female and all this advice is seriously good stuff (possibly not the coke!) The reason why I chose my bloke was because he was totally himself and made me laugh and laugh! The number one rule is to be confident about yourself dont run the conversation through your head just play it by ear. 'can i buy you a drink' does usually work as it breaks the ice and shows you can be generous even if you get a no at the end of the night.

TBH im very happy being a girl we rarely have to worry about this stuff u poor men get it tough sometimes..

[/ QUOTE ] Thank you, its good to get a female prespective sometimes.

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Ahh Riz I've never been a 'numbers' man but this is a classic situation where you can apply my "Life is a Game" ™ ideology.

Almost every situation you find yourself in in life can be broken down into

- a goal

- players (including yourself)

- key success criteria

Focus your attention on the objective, understand the players and work out how to rack up points along the way.

Essentially you are at A and need to get to B. If you don't know the way to B its up to you to find a map and plot the best course there. Like getting the best out of a map it really is just common sense and a little logic. Like any route, there are shortcuts (key success criteria). You learn the shortcuts by understanding the people involved. Shortcuts get you to where you're going faster.

I'm certainly not saying premeditate everything and run off a script however funny that would be to watch. You know your goal and you know yourself so what you need to know is who you're dealing with.

I'm not going to sit here and classify women cos I'll get killed but I think you can look and listen to people and perhaps work out 25-50% of their personality just from that initial observation. Thats going to define your strategy.

This is really dangerous (i'm ducking already) but you'll probably be able to classify into girls lookin for possessions and girls looking for people.

With the former get those keys out, lie through your teeth, get the drinks in and you'll either get one week tops or a trophy wife for life. [/hardhat] I wouldn't bother here.

Then you have all those intelligent, sweet and interesting girls who want to know about you...ahhhh.

This is where its at wink.gif

1. Stealth/Infiltration/The Sleeper/The Gay Man Approach.

This is the daddy. Be yourself, get into their circle of friends, relax, don't try anything. Give them all the time in the world to observe you, to have their thoughts. Concentrate on just being yourself and having fun. Make sure you're never arrogant. Never appear threatening just do what you do. Make sure your sense of humour is allowed to wander free. If you have what they want they will eventually see it and they will come and find it. If you're lucky they might even wonder why you haven't approached them and they might even try that bit harder when they do come a 'knockin wink.gif

2. The Tao of Steve

As relayed to you in Sep 'O3! Have you tried it? At least it will make life funny

3. Learn Magic tricks. 100% SUREFIRE. Deal done.

4. Just make them laugh.

Confidence comes from all of the above - i.e. just understanding whats going on around you and what you want.

Booze might help but too much of it and you're only ever going to get a week out of the situation, as above.

Right im getting into my woman-proof bunker grin.gif

Oh and if you ever want a litmus test as to how you're doing, drop in an ever so cheeky innuendo. Nothing disgusting but watch the response. If it gets brushed aside or ignored you're going nowhere but if a cheeky retort and/or a grin comes back then you're in business wink.gif

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If you've got any relatives with babies or cute young children, offer to take them out.

Off to Meadowhall on Saturday and it'll be sure fire success.

I don't know what it is but single women just can't help themselves when there's a bloke on his own with a cute baby/young child. It breaks the ice and from there, you're away smile.gif

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If you've got any relatives with babies or cute young children, offer to take them out.

Off to Meadowhall on Saturday and it'll be sure fire success.

I don't know what it is but single women just can't help themselves when there's a bloke on his own with a cute baby/young child. It breaks the ice and from there, you're away smile.gif

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100% sure fire way....

Take my kids out on my own and I can usually get chatting to some lurvly young things, Ripspeed Girls included smlove2.gif

My kids must be cute 'cos I'm as ugly as f.....

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