Mac Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 See here! Up for auction. Top dive computer - only used about 10 times or so. Why am I getting rid? Well the b*stards at Suunto have released the D9 and I need it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loddrik Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Great for the bath too I'd imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loddrik Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Seriously though, I do like these, I'm just crap at diving. My mate has one (he's good at diving) and it looks superb, they are massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Won't set off in the bath. Not that I've tried it of course. They're probably the best watch like dive computer around. I mean it's small enough to wear as a watch while you're on holiday and big enough when you're diving. I want to upgrade to the D9 as it's got a few funky features that I think I'd find useful: Air integration, compass etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32TIM Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 i have one and can agree it is quality, i'd feel lost diving without it... ..good luck with the sale mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNobody Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 [Nothing productive to add] Can't see the point myself. Get a watch for telling the time and a proper dive computer for diving. I've got a Vytec and it's almost all the computer I'll ever need - big display, air integrated and can handle up to 3 different nitrox mixes. Lovely [/Nothing productive to add] Of course, this has nothing to do with the fact that I have tiny wrists so something like the Stinger would look massive if I wasn't wearing it over a wet-suit or dry-suit, honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hmmm, I don't have a problem with the size at all? I mean it's perfectly visible underwater. I do want air integration though - so I defo think the D9 is the way to go for me. I tend to wear a watch as well as the computer. I also STILL dive tables (Although generally multi-level with the wheel). The computer is just an additional safety measure - I don't see the point of diving aggressively. If the tables say I'm approaching 'unhappy' then I assume I'm approaching unhappy - regardless of what the computer says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Nice computer and you got a good price for it ...but tables are VERY conservative and I think if you were on a liveaboard doing multiple dives a day for a number of days you would find yourself approaching your NDL quite quickly. Also, start involving different mixes and things get complicated, although I suppose if you use air tables but dive on EANx you are increasing your safety margin. Actually the last liveaboard I did insisted everyone used a computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidicks Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I want to upgrade to the D9 as it's got a few funky features that I think I'd find useful: Air integration, compass etc. [/ QUOTE ] Ah Sunnto D9 - an awesome looking dive computer/watch. I couldn't justify the price of that one, given the small amount of diving I'm expecting to do, so I've got a Suunto Viper instead. Sidicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted March 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 I do see your point Foggy - must admit on a liveaboard at 2/3 dives a day then I tend to rely on the computer more...But in general I still use the tables. I've gone right off the D9. I saw and had a play with it and it just doesn't do it for me I'm actually thinking of getting another stinger, although the titanium one, or just getting a vytec - I'm not that fussed about having the thing as a watch as such, more interested in it's diving features. Ho hum, so many choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Only 2/3 a day Mac, must try harder I went through the whole watch / computer, air intergrated or not decision recently and in the end I decided the best way forward for me was the plain old Vyper. Great computer and very easy to use. The only downside I would say it has is that it seems to have become the de facto standard so there can be lots of them on a boat. This means you either have to make yours unique somehow or keep a very close eye on it, not just from the 'going missing' perspective but also because if you accidentally end up wearing someone elses computer and they wear yours the deco calcs it is doing will not reflect your real nitrogen loading. I guess this is where the Stinger comes into it's own because you don't really need to take that off. With respect to air integrated computers, it may be useful to follow up after the dive when you download your dive profile to your PC and analyse your breathing rate but for the extra £250 the Vytec costs ie. more than twice the price of the Vyper, I thought it was nothing more than a nice to have. Whilst I appreciate the Vytec dispenses with the need for another hose I like the idea of a mechanical gauge to tell me my cylinder pressure but at the same time I hate bulky consoles so I use this which I think is great I dearly love the stinger but in my opinion it's steel and rubber guise it is bit too heavy and in your face for use as an everyday watch, however the Ti version with the Ti strap is just make sure you don't get the one with the gold trim. So I use a Ti dive watch / gauge and a Vyper. Both of these get worn during dives so I have a backup should one fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted March 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Yup 2/3 - mind you I end up doing some up & downs with the learners sometimes Bad hey. As I've said, I've gone right off the D9. Think I may just go for another stinger, but in titanium. Mind you the vyper/vytec are goods bit of kit To be fair I only really want the air integrated, well, er, because I can Seeing as this the new thrifty me I shall pass it up then. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNobody Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] With respect to air integrated computers, it may be useful to follow up after the dive when you download your dive profile to your PC and analyse your breathing rate but for the extra £250 the Vytec costs ie. more than twice the price of the Vyper, I thought it was nothing more than a nice to have. [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget that the extra cost is not just for air-integration It also gives you the ability to use up to 3 different EANx mixes and calculate accelerated deco as you go. @Mac, if you're having problems selling the Stinger, get on Yorkshire Divers, you may have more luck there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted March 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Nope Stinger went just fine mate. Sold it for about 20 quid less than I bought it so no complaints there! I have a couple of diving watches - a titanium Citrizen Skwhawk and my fav. Tag Heur...Problem is both were pricey enough to make me not want to take them in the sea Go figure! Think I may just go with th Vytec. As long as it does Nitrox and I have the option of air integration later then I'm a happy fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 LMAO @ Mac... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNobody Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Think I may just go with th Vytec. As long as it does Nitrox and I have the option of air integration later then I'm a happy fella [/ QUOTE ] If you do go for a Vytec and decide you want air integration, drop me a line - I have the transmitter but can't use it with my twinset as it would get in the way of the valves and cause problems if I had to do a shutdown. I was planning on keeping it for single tank diving (basically just holiday stuff) but might be prepared to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Don't forget that the extra cost is not just for air-integration It also gives you the ability to use up to 3 different EANx mixes and calculate accelerated deco as you go. [/ QUOTE ] That is true, and I had seen that when I was weighing up what to buy myself. However TBH, I'm not sure how many people on here ( certainly not me ) would be carrying three different mixes with them on dives and switching between them. So when I decided what to go for I simply thought what will I really be using it for and based on that it's only difference to the Vyper is the air integration and the extra £250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNobody Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 I'll be TDI Advanced Nitrox & Deco Procedures qualified just as soon as I complete the tests and get them sent off to the instructor. This means I can dive to 45m and use up to 100% O2 for accelerated deco so I guess I might use 3 different mixes. More than likely though I'll only be using 2, but I'll still get to use the gas switching feature of the Vytec finally (I've had the computer for a couple of years now). I do agree though, that for many divers, the Vytec is too much - there are other air-integrated computers that are better suited to the less technical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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