jimmyt180975 Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 I was on the verge of buying an R32 and may still be! However, and as i am not the most decisive at the best of times, just seen more pictures of the Astra VXR and not sure if to wait a bit longer for its road test reviews. I want to be sure i am making the right decision. Help convince me the R32 is the right one to buy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markallain Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 The VXR wouldn't be for me. I saw the concept at one of the Motor Shows (can't remember whether it was Paris or UK). It looked nice but just made me think I wasn't going to trade in even if it was a straight swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Totally different car. 4wd vs 2wd. V6 vs 4 cyl. VW vs Vauxhall. Try both and decide for yourself - I don't think you'll need other people to advise you. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Shall I tell you what an R32 owner would say about:- Image 6 cyl over 4 cyl 4wd over 2 wd no torque steer issues over popeye arms I looked at one, I thought about it then got back in the R. Vauxhall really are getting some sort of act together, running ahead of Ford and not far of parallel with the Germans for build. At £19k (with lge wheels) and no real discounting available (wait 6 months!) it's into top money, sub 15k miles R32 prices. Deprication could be heavy and remember, unlike the R or the RS Ford it is an open market, unrestricted volume model. Could be the best selling "Young Buck" rep car for years to come. Possibly a classic model for Vauxhall, but then I think it will quickly end up as the Chav Max Power toy to own. I must be getting old, because 20 years ago, I'd of loved one, an did own a Astra GTE for 8 months! Do you really need me to tell you what you already know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnywilk Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 They had a review of the VXR in the motoring section of the telegraph today. the guy quite liked it, but insisted it was for hooded youngsters!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 and i thought Bazza might get one as he likes his vauxhalls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Bazza's going proper German soon. Bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Bazza's going proper German soon. Bastard. [/ QUOTE ] Mmmm, I wonder which of the 3 cars he might be getting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauls1980 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I saw Top Gear last night and Jeremy tried to drive the VXR, far too much power for the chassis to handle, very dangerous, don't buy this car!! Get an R32, Top Gear (Jeremy) recommended a mk5 golf gti over the VXR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 No way I'd get a VXR over an R32 - Very different cars indeed. I'd look at one over a mk5 GTi howevr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Have you ever touched the dash on a Vauxhall?? Nasty!!! If not be carefull, try not to break anything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I think Jezzas comments are being a little misrepresented - I doubt the torque steer is any more dangerous than the Focus RS was (and that was quite a handful). That kind of horsepower through the front wheels is bound to be interesting, but I bet it feels pretty fast compard to the R32 given the lack of 4wd drag. Give the VXR a AMD remap and it should be very interesting!!!!! For me I'd have the Vauxhall, over the GOlf GTi anyday, the R32 is more difficult because it does sound nice :vroomvroomsmilie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Have you ever touched the dash on a Vauxhall?? Nasty!!! If not be carefull, try not to break anything.... [/ QUOTE ] Never had one vauxhall need as many trips to the dealer as VW/Audi, in fact for one thing never had a single MAF failure in any Vauxhall I have owned, and they are still made by Bosch - so I guess I'd go for fragile dashboard over fragile mechanicals anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Have you touched the dash of a NEW Vauxhall? MUCH better but most VW owners conveniently fail to acknowledge it. My Astra (top spec) is very well screwed together. Not a squeak or a rattle anywhere after 3k miles. My R32 was the same - After two trips to the dealer to solve a nasty dash squeak and a rattly brake cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3Floyd Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I'll second that. The new astras are in a completely different league compared to the old model. I personally thought the materials and fit were on par, if not better, than my old S3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mook Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I agree that the new Astra is much better built than it used to be, having recently hired one for work, although the quality of the plastics used is not as good as those found in VWs and Audis, but what do you expect - as JC said on the programme, it's a full £1K cheaper, so something's got to give. Also, round the track, it was quicker than the R32, by about a second. It's not posted on the Top Gear web site yet - but they definitely stuck it above the Golf! Yes, it's a banzia bonkers car, but something's got to be good about it to be that quick (6 seconds to 62..?). The Renault 5 Turbo also had chronic torque steer - I owned one for about 3 months a long time ago - then the first baby appeared - but it was a great car, even if it did have the strength of a cake tin if you crashed R32 v VXR is not just about speed though, even though they might try to deny it, R32 owners are "badge snobs" - I have no problem admitting that I would prefer a VW parked on the drive than a Vauxhall - we've only got VWs on the drive, so it would be hard not to! R32 owners also like the exclusivity of the R, compared to the VXR, which is in a similar vein to the Cavalier SRI 4x4, i.e. a souped up rep-mobile (no offence). Pay your money and take your pick, but don't slag it off. And relaxxxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I honestly totally ignored the R32 badge when I got it - Tested all the competition and genuinely thought the R was the best car in it's limited sector. I still think it is too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3Floyd Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Pay your money and take your pick, but don't slag it off. And relaxxxxxx [/ QUOTE ] Am I missing something???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Am I missing something???? [/ QUOTE ] Not sure! Couple of comments from above... [ QUOTE ] I saw Top Gear last night and Jeremy tried to drive the VXR, far too much power for the chassis to handle, very dangerous, don't buy this car!! [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Have you ever touched the dash on a Vauxhall?? Nasty!!! If not be carefull, try not to break anything.... [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3Floyd Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Ahhhhh! thought i'd offended someone for a second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Ahhhhh! thought i'd offended someone for a second [/ QUOTE ] You probably did that as well anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Must admit I havent been inside the new Astra, I'll put a paper bag over my head and go check out the local garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Must admit I havent been inside the new Astra, I'll put a paper bag over my head and go check out the local garage. [/ QUOTE ] Dangerous game to play,what if you fall in love with it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 ...perish the thought!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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