mooret Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Heard on the radio yesterday about some chap who has received a £150 (i think) fine and three points for splashing a pedestrian by driving through a puddle. Big debate on radio 2 (I know!!!) about the rights and wrongs of doing this and whether the punishment was fair. However what nobody commented on was that if the local council did their job properly and ensured that roads / drains were properly maintained then this sort of thisg would't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapsuds Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 my mum has a drain at the top of her driveway (downward sloping driveway into garage under the house) and its full of leaves. Water has gathered to form a massive puddle and the cars cannot avoid it! It splashes the whole garden area and you have to time your walk out of the house correctly so you dont get wet!! Called the council 8 times and they keep saying they will be out within 7-10 days!!! WTF!!!!!!! Useless gits.... That said, if a driver did splash me, there is no-way i would want them to get fined and 3 points on their license - buy me a crate of beer, yea, but that is fecking ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I can't get my head around this either. Exactly what offence has been committed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Just read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/4392092.stm 'Driving without due consideration'. What a farce! I know everyone says it and sometimes it's a very weak arguement, but do the Police not have anything better to do? Like catch real criminals? Oh yeah, I forgot, that would actually require them doing some real work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Here's a Sky news article on it, and make sure your sitting down for the last line... http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13455865,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_C Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Quite simply unbelievable. Points for that??!? Maybe I should be asking Blackspot if there's a 'Puddle Alert' download available for the Road Angel II, what with all the recent rain we've been having... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Surely encouraging the public to dodge puddles, for fear of getting points, is dangerous... Steering abruptly on a wet road can lead to a lack of traction, and some people may end up dodging puddles and colliding with on-coming traffic! I'd have argued that I paid due consideration, but considered it more dangerous to take evasive action at that point, so I proceeded with caution through the puddle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichTT Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 More proof of this ridiculos PC government-I suppose if the guy he splashed had been an ethnic minority, he would have been jailed for Racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syeldham Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I still fail to see how it's an offence? What the hell is the police force doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 OMFG!! The case cost £20,000! What the hell are the CPS thinking??? Common sence has left the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentandy Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Common sence has left the building. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly! It just shows that political correctness throws common sense out of the window. The priorities are totally wrong in out political and justice systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syeldham Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Common sence has left the building. [/ QUOTE ] There's quite a lot of irony in that sentence! But you're right, something should be done about it. There should be a charge on police for time wasting cases like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 More reason to avoid confrontation with the law on the road; It seems you`re now officially likely to get a harsher punishment for "death by careless driving" than you are if you actually went and murdered someone, according to the figures they were reading out on the local news tonight. Of course, they were reporting it as "new laws for dangerous/careless driving", but the examples they were reading out were equal, if not tougher, than the punishments handed out these days for murder. Can't help but think maybe the government need to look at their priorities, but then this is the same people who will lock up someone for not paying their council tax and hand out community sentencing for robberies, assault, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 [ QUOTE ] this is the same people who will lock up someone for not paying their council tax and hand out community sentencing for robberies, assault, etc. [/ QUOTE ] And throw old men out of their party conference for the heinous crime of shouting "Rubbish!", and have the police deleting the photographs from the cameras of their own MPs... But thankfully, New Labour isn't about creating a nanny state. Just an Orwellian one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 someone needs to have a word with the CPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentandy Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 The biggest problem we are facing in this country is apathy. As a whole we are good at moaning about things like this and how unequal systems are, but we do bugger all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 I have a problem with puddles. We've discussed it before. That is, when does a puddle become big enough to not be a puddle any more? When does it become a pool? Or when does a pool of water in a field become a pond? Then, when does a pond become a lake? Thing is, it's the puddle to pool transformation that keeps me awake on a night.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 [ QUOTE ] When does it become a pool? Or when does a pool of water in a field become a pond? Then, when does a pond become a lake? [/ QUOTE ] When cars stall in it? When it needs it`s own team of workers to look after it and add chemicals so you can swim in it? When you can fit a boat in it? When it has fish living in it? Hmmm... Point taken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 It's weird. That is no definition of it that I know of. I think we spent 4-5 pages trying to figure this out months ago - yet still reached no conclusion. See it's even more confusing when pools can be smaller than puddles too. See, you can have a pool of blood that can be smaller than a puddle...yes? Yet a pool of water would generally be larger than a puddle? How come? It's worse than the chicken and the egg - because we all know that bird flu killed that one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntW Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 pathetic, given the rain recently there are some roads you cannot drive down without splashing the pavements, even at low speed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NunchukHamster Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 You really don't want an official definition of a puddle, do you? It would take the Government days to agree on the wording! For example, this is a genuine definition of slush, taken from the Manual of Air Traffic Services:- "Slush - a water saturated snow which, with a heel and toe slap down action with the foot against the ground, will be displaced with a splatter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 In the Sky news story the comment from the Police/CPS was that he wouldnt have been taken to court if he had slowed down more. The story also says he drove through at 10-15mph, how slow should he have gone exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 That's a weak arguement. He wouldn't have been taken to court if the copper had used some common sense in the first place and simply warned the guy. Also, if they had actually sat down and looked at the figures - surely that's what the CPS are supposed to do - weigh up the time, money and effort in seeking a prosecution against a possible outcome. But there I go again, using common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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