guner2980 Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 has anyone tried this as i did last night from B.P £2.50 a litre didnt think much of it i put in £30 and got 12liters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyDub Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Does it really make a that much of difference for the extra £1.50 per litre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guner2980 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 to be honest did not make a change if i put it in again i will check the ing advance via vag com i think it a gimick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKLooney Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 it will probably give around 1/2s a lap around a track. The difference between winning and coming 2nd. a complete waste of money the rest of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 My understanding is that an R EMU can sense the ROn and will re-map / self adjust to give the best performance for the fuel type. Since the 102 hasn't been around for long a doubt it's in the range of adjustment that the EMU can accept. So a total waste of money? Anyone like to prove that I'm talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 from my understanding the ecu will adjust its self to accommodate for the higher rated fuel. you will have run it for a few fill ups before you will notice any major change as the sensors take time to adjust to the new fuel... i will go any try some today is it at all BP garages as i now have the 'new race software' installed on my car and i'm sure its been gagging for higher octain fuel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] is it at all BP garages [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure i read somewhere that its only at a few garages, i think its 8 in total, to see if it takes off or not, tho i may be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 bugger do you know the locations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 I haven't a clue, might be worth asking at your local BP as they might know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Chasing dreams at £11 a gallon Will BP’s expensive superfuel really make your car go faster? Jonathan Milne of The Sunday Times investigates Petrol prices may be at their highest level ever, but BP is gambling that a niche group of drivers will still be willing to pay more than twice as much. The oil company has launched the highest octane fuel available on forecourts in Britain, aimed at drivers of high-performance cars. It costs £2.42 a litre — £11 a gallon. Ultimate 102 has an octane rating of 102 RON, compared with 95 RON for standard unleaded petrol and 99 RON for the highest-rated super-unleaded. It is similar to the old five star petrol sold in the 1970s which cost only a few pence more than regular fuel. BP’s target is the growing number of owners of top-end sports cars who want a little more power and performance from their tuned engines, especially on track days. The company claims it can add as much as 37bhp to a turbocharged vehicle. The fuel, which is “crystal clear” rather than the yellowish colour of regular petrol, is so exclusive it is “hand made” in small batches using the sort of expertise employed by Formula One race teams, says BP. But is anyone really going to spend £100 on one tank of petrol? Ultimate 102 went on sale on six forecourts in southeast England last Monday. The Sunday Times monitored two stations for 48 hours last week and witnessed only one purchase. Calls to the other garages revealed just five confirmed sales (three refused to comment). BP says all six stations have made at least one sale. Pressed on exactly what quantity had been sold, a spokesman said the response had been “ overwhelming”. Overwhelmingly bad, perhaps. Even BP’s own station managers were sceptical. Ade Layokun at the Tudor filling station on the A20 in Maidstone said: “Even for the high-end road user it’s too expensive. People pick up the pump then quickly drop it.” At the Newbury Centre filling station in Ilford, Essex, drivers were required to push a large orange button on the pump to signal their acceptance of the price. When one elderly lady inserted the nozzle of the superpetrol in her Fiat Punto the cashier warned her over the intercom and she beat a retreat. The other buyers according to staff were the driver of a Subaru Impreza and a customer who filled a 5 litre can. The only purchase witnessed by The Sunday Times was at the Canning Town station, east London, by Jermain Shillingford, a 24-year-old courier. He put £15 worth into his Renault Clio Williams. That bought him 6.2 litres. Shillingford said he had spent £7,000 souping up his 13-year-old car with gold hubcaps, a stainless steel manifold and a straight-through exhaust. He planned to begin racing his car and hoped the fuel might give him an edge. “I thought I’d give this a try. I know turbo cars will get more performance out of it. This is a normally aspirated engine — it might gain a little bit, might be a little more responsive. I won’t be buying it all the time, though.” The biggest customers for the new petrol were Kent police who made two purchases last week, filling up their Volvo patrol cars using the taxpayer funded police fuel account at the Tudor filling station. After being contacted by The Sunday Times, Kent police warned staff against using the fuel again, saying it was an “error”. Jon Parker, a spokesman, said 95 or 97 octane petrol was adequate for the police force’s vehicles. BP claims to have extensively tested the new petrol on a range of high performance cars, including a Porsche. Andrew Davis of Porsche says the fuel will not increase power in a Porsche, though it may fractionally reduce fuel consumption and burn more cleanly. “Our engines have a maximum power output. If you put different fuel in, the engine management system won’t allow the engine to produce more power. All our cars will run on standard 95 RON unleaded, although we advise 98 RON for some of the turbocharged cars.” Chris Walsh, technical manager of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, says the fuel would be of little benefit to most motorists. He said he would be surprised if there were a perceptible improvement in the performance of Shillingford’s Clio Williams. “Clearly fuel price is a sensitive issue, but some people have got quite a lot of money to spend. I can see that if people were going to a track day they might use it to get half a second off a lap.” BP, which last week unveiled profits of £2.95 billion for the first three months of 2006, stands by its expensive new product. “Performance benefits should be noticeable immediately for those with performance cars,” says Nicola Beckett, UK marketing manager for BP Ultimate. She says trials have shown improved performance on cars including the Mitsubishi Evo, Ford Focus ST and Subaru Impreza, once they were tuned for the fuel. “For someone who does have a car which they’ve spent a lot of time and money on, we think they will pay the price. This isn’t aimed at the average driver — the price to them will seem astronomical.” The fuel will be available from nine sites this year. BP will then assess whether there is a wider demand. http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22750-2156181,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 "BP’s target is the growing number of owners of top-end sports cars who want a little more power and performance from their tuned engines, especially on track days. The company claims it can add as much as 37bhp to a turbocharged vehicle." i like this bit...extra 37 BHP it should be the same on a SC... i will let you all know what ist like when i find a place that sells it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Here you are Helf... All Saints self serve, commercial road, portsmouth tudor filling station,allington, kent, newham way, canning town london, newbury centre filling station,newbary park, essex wavendon gate connect, newport road, MK crichly park connect, newport pagnell, bucks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Thanks Jimmy..... bugger all down south.....mmmm will have to hope they open on up here...might make a call on tues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bazza_g Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The company claims it can add as much as 37bhp to a turbocharged vehicle. [/ QUOTE ] some insurance companies could class that as a performance upgrade - If this catches on I can see additional premiums when drivers have to declare they are using this fuel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKLooney Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 The car would need to be tuned specifically for 102ron to get the full benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanUK Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 I visit MK a lot Tom so I'll stick some in the Impreza and let you know! 102 ron should at leat keep the Knocklink happy and all green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The car would need to be tuned specifically for 102ron to get the full benefit. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely - anything tuned for 102 octane & running on 98 is going to be having a problem now (or running very retarded at the moment) - would be good in highly tuned 2 stroke bikes as used to have to buy Avgas from the airport for mine ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 i want to try it as i'm on the race software which is designed for 100 + octain....can adjust it very quickly on my car....if i can get a extra 37 bhp...sod upping the psi on mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I think you're schmokin' sum-fink Tom, if you reckon you'll get an extra 37 bhp by running 102 octane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6tas Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I think you're schmokin' sum-fink Tom, if you reckon you'll get an extra 37 bhp by running 102 octane [/ QUOTE ] Dunno about Tom mate but his car is certainly "schmokin" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I think you're schmokin' sum-fink Tom, if you reckon you'll get an extra 37 bhp by running 102 octane [/ QUOTE ] we all can dream you never know.....i will try some soon and really see what difference it makes. i am running the race software Mook which is supposed to add more BHP with over 100 Octane fuel... if you look on the VF website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I reckon you should try a litre of lighter fluid as well. 500 bhp, no problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I reckon you should try a litre of lighter fluid as well. 500 bhp, no problem... [/ QUOTE ] ha ha we will see.......its all in motion for switchable ecu map for optimax and 102 octain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 One of my friends had a bike with twin section fuel tank, one side carried 4star the other Avgas, bike was tuned for Avgas when he wanted to go faster he switched on the other fuel tap and could use another couple of thousand rpm before the engine melted (which it did frequently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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