DHA Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Are there any Q cars anymore that have good performance? If you think when the Sapphire cosworths were first out, same goes for the Impreza turbos nobody really knew about them and they had pretty good performance. Is there anything like that today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 The Subaru Legacy perhaps? I am sure garcon will be along soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I am sure garcon will be along soon [/ QUOTE ] He he, he beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I'm dead fast me. Much quicker than I look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Lexus GS450h - Goes like flippin stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 ...until you reach a corner. It might be quite well balanced, but it's still two flippin tons! And it sounds like a sewing machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I am not sure that a 4x4 can count as a Q car.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 The GS isn't a 4x4 - it's the medium size saloon. It's a great try by Lexus but seriously flawed IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 A3 3.2 If you have it in normal Sport trim, not S-line, and de-badge it, it could be any other 1.6 version...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The GS isn't a 4x4 - it's the medium size saloon. It's a great try by Lexus but seriously flawed IMO. [/ QUOTE ] oh yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] A3 3.2 If you have it in normal Sport trim, not S-line, and de-badge it, it could be any other 1.6 version...... [/ QUOTE ] Decent call that. Very subtle. Here's one that can really mix it with the big boys - BMW 335d SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] A3 3.2 If you have it in normal Sport trim, not S-line, and de-badge it, it could be any other 1.6 version...... [/ QUOTE ] Q indeeed - Quite a rip off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 In fact, if you set out to design the ultimate Q car these days it'd almost certainly be a diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] In fact, if you set out to design the ultimate Q car these days it'd almost certainly be a diesel. [/ QUOTE ] I'd have thought you are right there, the A8 4.2TDI has to be a contender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In fact, if you set out to design the ultimate Q car these days it'd almost certainly be a diesel. [/ QUOTE ] I'd have thought you are right there, the A8 4.2TDI has to be a contender [/ QUOTE ] A car badged '4.2 TDI' can hardly be taken as a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] A car badged '4.2 TDI' can hardly be taken as a joke! [/ QUOTE ] Not if it is debadged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 That's one thing about the Legacy. Few people know what it is in the first place. And there's no badging at all. Except 'Legacy'. OK, that's two things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyds Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 How about some of the higher power volvos? Unmarked police cars need this "Q-car" look to work well, and a lot as volvos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Volvo S60 / V70 R is definitely a contender. 4wd and 300bhp is not to be sniffed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Are there any Q cars anymore that have good performance? If you think when the Sapphire cosworths were first out, same goes for the Impreza turbos nobody really knew about them and they had pretty good performance. Is there anything like that today? [/ QUOTE ] As we were a subaru dealer back then before they got the image. The impreza more or less had an image from day one it did go nuts later as we all know but the Qcar was really the legacy turbo predecessor that was a proper Q car as it was not showy. The cosworth was never a Q car. The carlton 3.0 GSI 24V was though as was the lancia thema turbo, Alfa 164 cloverleaf and many more of that time. Today theres not really many that go undetected as the companys make them look the part. I guess the VW Jetta 2.0T sport is a good example of a Q car today not that fast compared to some but it goes undetected like Q cars from yesteryear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 The VW Passat Estate 3.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A car badged '4.2 TDI' can hardly be taken as a joke! [/ QUOTE ] Not if it is debadged [/ QUOTE ] aye, very true. Can the Golf GTI go down as a Q car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacake Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] As we were a subaru dealer back then before they got the image. The impreza more or less had an image from day one it did go nuts later as we all know but the Qcar was really the legacy turbo predecessor that was a proper Q car as it was not showy. [/ QUOTE ] The original Legacy Turbo was a great car. As you say, not at all showy, and no-one knew what it was. Good in the dry, but it got better the worse the conditions were. On pot-holed, muddy roads, it was just epic. Best car I've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Bugatti Veyron. Its alot faster than it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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