charding370 Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Latest is the RS- or R36 is not going to happen. There you go but at least residuals will hold up better. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you say that? The pictures on worldcarfans, which are definitely not photoshopped, are evidence that there will be another high performance golf V. Whatever name VW decides to name it, be it RS, R36 or whatever, it will definitely be of a higher performance level compared to the R32. [/ QUOTE ] I asked the same question but apparently the decision has been made that it will not be produced for any markets due to costs v's lack of demand. R32 will continue for some time unchanged. Share your disappointment but have no reason to doubt my source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I'm in no position to question or challenge your source, ChrishR32, but I do question their words re "lack of demand" - They obviously have never heard of Tyresmoke and this .:R forum!! Plenty of demand here I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhj83 Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I asked the same question but apparently the decision has been made that it will not be produced for any markets due to costs v's lack of demand. R32 will continue for some time unchanged. Share your disappointment but have no reason to doubt my source. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not disappointed at all if they truly decide to scrap any plans to make another high performance golf V as it would mean our R32s are still top of the golf V range (in terms of price ). IMHO, I don't think VW would have made a mistake of deciding that there won't be sufficient demand after they have gone ahead and started testing another high performance golf V. I would think that most companies would assess the market first before they decided whether or not to go ahead and develop a new product let alone begin testing their prototype out in the open. Do you see my logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charding370 Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I asked the same question but apparently the decision has been made that it will not be produced for any markets due to costs v's lack of demand. R32 will continue for some time unchanged. Share your disappointment but have no reason to doubt my source. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not disappointed at all if they truly decide to scrap any plans to make another high performance golf V as it would mean our R32s are still top of the golf V range (in terms of price ). IMHO, I don't think VW would have made a mistake of deciding that there won't be sufficient demand after they have gone ahead and started testing another high performance golf V. I would think that most companies would assess the market first before they decided whether or not to go ahead and develop a new product let alone begin testing their prototype out in the open. Do you see my logic? [/ QUOTE ] Hence my comment about residuals and as I said I did ask the question about the Worldfan photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhj83 Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Apologies but I don't quite understand what comment about residuals you are referring to and how it ties in with my opinion on how companies assess the market first before product development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] VWUK [/ QUOTE ] This will be the same VW UK that confirmed it to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N3WOB Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 You lot should know by now that the only reliable source for this info apart from DD is creamy creamy mook mook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6tas Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Reading the whole thread im definitely of the opinion that an end of line perfromance MK5 model will certainly come out aka the MK4. If the picture is anything to go by and it comes with approx 300bhp and ditches those Mondeo style alloys then it might well be a winner. Im certainly not getting rid of my MK4 R32 until the end of the year at the earliest and hopefully the picture might be a bit clearer by then. With regards comments about Auto Express and their slight over exageration of some stories, this is exactly the same response recieved when the spy shots of the present MK5 R32 which many of you now own and love to drive appeared, so dont be too dismissive of these stories !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 What about the fact that VW may not be sure themselves yet? I bet they have pipeline ideas, but would have to see what the economy/internal finances/internal management/etc etc will be before they decide whether to go ahead......and if so, then decide exactly what, where and when. Surely VW have people looking at forums like this for feedback before they decide whether to go ahead or not. In short, I think its a bit like me saying i will go on holiday to Bermuda next summer. Thats the current general thinking - but it will depend on finances and other priorities at the time. Hope that makes sense to somebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N3WOB Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Surely VW have people looking at forums like this for feedback before they decide whether to go ahead or not. [/ QUOTE ] You would have though so too, suspect that by the time any info is fedback through the corporate museli machine it's been filtered, watered down & morphed into something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGK512 Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I asked the same question but apparently the decision has been made that it will not be produced for any markets due to costs v's lack of demand. R32 will continue for some time unchanged. Share your disappointment but have no reason to doubt my source. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not disappointed at all if they truly decide to scrap any plans to make another high performance golf V as it would mean our R32s are still top of the golf V range (in terms of price ). IMHO, I don't think VW would have made a mistake of deciding that there won't be sufficient demand after they have gone ahead and started testing another high performance golf V. I would think that most companies would assess the market first before they decided whether or not to go ahead and develop a new product let alone begin testing their prototype out in the open. Do you see my logic? [/ QUOTE ] Could just me a mule to test the engine/drive train running gear for the mk6 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scillyisles Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Let's look at the facts - 1. VAG group have a history of producing special versions of their cars just before the model is replaced. 2. VAG group don't care one iota about residuals. They care about market share and increasing sales. 3. The R36 engine exists in the new VW Passat. 4. Typically a manufacturer only starts cold weather testing (that's what the photos show) when the model is nearing production ready state. 5. The front bumper and new air intakes on the cars shown testing do not look like mocked up temporary items that car mules normally wear at an early stage of prototype testing. They look production ready quality to me. 6. The worldcarfans photos also confirm the production ready state of the bodywork changes. My bet would be on this car being produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charding370 Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] VWUK [/ QUOTE ] This will be the same VW UK that confirmed it to me [/ QUOTE ] Try contacting them now, this is new information only just decided. They could not explain the mule testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Im still gonna hold out and save my cash (5k depreciation, plus annother 6k premium on the new model... 11k extra in 18months?!) and just mod my .:R. When that warranty runs out, it's defo gonna be an HPA FI kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] VWUK [/ QUOTE ] This will be the same VW UK that confirmed it to me [/ QUOTE ] Try contacting them now, this is new information only just decided. They could not explain the mule testing. [/ QUOTE ] VW UK are about as much use as a shot of "boob enhancer" in your premium unleaded when it comes to info on forthcoming models.......... The fact that the gaffer of Audi has now taken over the reigns at VW also taking his two designers with him, has thrown new model output into total confusion. It will be interesting to see which way they go, but in view of their ages (no disrespect red ) I am not holding my breath for anything that we want to be able to buy in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richy Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 A likely explanation is that the R36/RSi was on its way but may now have been paused/cancelled due to the new management. I hope not though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] You lot should know by now that the only reliable source for this info apart from DD is creamy creamy mook mook [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I have always loved Vees,shoved my first V8 into a long nosed henry many moons ago,but there days are numbered, taxation, environmental concerns, depreciation will be the death knell for big lumps.........they are the Dinosaurs of our time,extinction is not far away............ [/ QUOTE ] I dont wish to say "I told you........." But I think this reinforces my point about 2.0 RSI in preference to 3.6 "R" S3 currently squeezes in under the bar at 217 g/km so avoids the tax hike. I dont think any version of the 3.6 could achieve this.... I am now seriously considering whether I am going to cancel the RS4 I have on order, as the writing is officially now on the wall, this is only going one way......... Big capacity = Big tax bill. I dont know about everyone else, but I am p*ss*d off to the back teeth of working longer hours than ever and bunging that incompetent **** who runs the treasury all my hard earned with nothing to see for it (sorry paying for our lads to get killed in Iraq is something I can see) Sorry peeps just about to whip out the rickety soap box, I will save you all the rant......... Looks like the S3 will become a fixture for me for a whee while, and all pre April 06 "big lumps" should hold there residual values rather well me thinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGK512 Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] all pre April 06 "big lumps" should hold there residual values rather well me thinks! [/ QUOTE ] Well that's me fooked then reg 31st April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Well cant comment on whether you being is a good or bad thing SA But dear old "trousers down" is the only Chancellor to consistently impliment "retrospective" taxes at every opportunity................. How can it be fair to draw the line a year ago? Let me guess? He doesn't want to create a huge stampede to buy these type of vehicles before April 1st this year? mmmh a whole two weeks away.............. Brown is a complete **** a total control freak, I just wish he would off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGK512 Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Not sure why they didnt increase the tax on fuel by a couple of pence per litre and they would have got more cash and to me would be 'fairer' (cough) less you use less you pay so your gas guzzler only costs you more money when it's movin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 They will probably do that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpaul0055 Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Moved to £400 Tax Bill Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I was thinking we could be talking about a mega 1.4 TFSI RSI before long with oooooooooooh at least lets say a stonking 200ps..........oh and 3" wide tyres to reduce "rolling resistance"............. At this rate Audi are going to be kicking themselves they ever stopped making the A2....... A car before its time, me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] At this rate Audi are going to be kicking themselves they ever stopped making the A2....... A car before its time, me thinks [/ QUOTE ] Might explain the Audi A1 development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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