nasmaj Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Does anyone know where I can get this done? I'm about to take ownership of an A4 Avant (used) but desperately need the mirrors to be auto-folding as I have an extremely tight off-street parking space. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markpaq Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 No idea I'm afraid but I can tell you that they don't actually "Auto Fold". You still have to switch them in and out from the control on the door switch. It's a pity that they don't swing in and out with the door locking/unlocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] No idea I'm afraid but I can tell you that they don't actually "Auto Fold". You still have to switch them in and out from the control on the door switch. [/ QUOTE ] ... and the ignition has to be on for the switch to work. ... and you have to be moving at less than 10km/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techieboy Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No idea I'm afraid but I can tell you that they don't actually "Auto Fold". You still have to switch them in and out from the control on the door switch. [/ QUOTE ] ... and the ignition has to be on for the switch to work. ... and you have to be moving at less than 10km/h. [/ QUOTE ] ... and even then, they still stick out a fair way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 to summarise, they shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasmaj Posted September 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Thanks for the info. Actually, whilst the automatic feature would be nice, my main requirement is to be able to have them fold at the touch of a button, rather than have to get out of the car and do so manually. Surely it must be possible to get this done somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 you're best bet would be find some elec folding mirrors, study the wiring diagrams and maybe take power from the mirror heater. but then where is your switch - you could make a crude one, but surely its loads of work to put a proper switch in the door controls, rewire all the electrics etc. i'm sure loads of people would be doing it if the car was wired for them as standard (which i dont think it is!) you dont save much width anyway. not sure of the mm you gain, but cant be that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBC Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Just been out and measured mine on an A4 Avant, and folded in is 10cm(4in) less each side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny11 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 when i got my A6 2.7t a while ago i after i enquired about retro fitting auto folding mirrors, i found a dealers in Surrey who said they can do it but the price was about £1500, as it needs a new wiring loom, complete new mirrors at nearly £300 each and at that point i decided to fold them in myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] at that point i decided to fold them in myself [/ QUOTE ] With a B7 RS4 you can't even do that - the mirrors don't fold, not even manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 You don't state what model you are looking at, but here are the figures for the B6 S4 Avant. The B7 will no doubt be exactly the same. Note the S4 shares the same mirrors as the stock A4, albeit with optional brushed aluminium caps, whereas the [b7] RS4 has model-unique 'teardrop' mirrors that are fixed as Dave mentions above. Both out 1956 mm Both in 1781mm Hence with one folded (easy to do from the drivers' seat when reversing) 1869mm Source RSmodels.net Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] at that point i decided to fold them in myself [/ QUOTE ] With a B7 RS4 you can't even do that - the mirrors don't fold, not even manually. [/ QUOTE ] Unless you clip someone else's mirror at speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maersk Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Once folded they are in fact not as wide as the rest of the car!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 True true - the plan view pic I linked above demonstrates this. Obviously if you've got a C6 RS6 [on order] you still have the arches to worry about! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasmaj Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Great in formation, much appreciated. I have a B7 by the way. Still surprised nobody seems to be able to to this work for a price that's not crazy. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyccr Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Not too bad a job to retrofit, it more a case of getting hold of the folding mirrors themselves. I have a spare set that I might consider selling for the right money, but you'll have to hard wire them into the car and unless you are a competant electrica guy then I would not advise doing it yourself. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme86 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 The older A6s (amongst others) used a separate relay under the dash to control the folding mirrors. Part number 4A0 907 440. The wiring is in this link: http://www.carcajou.de/howto/spiegel.htm The wiring is under "Anschlussplan" link This guy wired the trigger to the SAFE signal from the alarm so they just open and close when you unlock or lock the car. You still need a switch to actually actuate the folding action of course. (I can't believe I just said that! ) It needs to feed from a switched earth. Normally (in the factory install) the feed was wired to the microswitch in the actual mirror base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 This is top quality posting chaps. Keep it coming. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Can't believe you follow all this stuff, Ian, what with having a Pug and all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayyab_123 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hi all I am wanting to do the electric folding mirrors retrofit to my b6 Audi A4 but havn't got a clue where to start.:confused: Can anybody shed some light on this please or know where I can find the instructions to do this retrofit. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmccann Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Done this to my B6 Cab (as well as loads of other things including memory seats, memory mirrors, anti dazzle etc). this is what you need - all available on Ebay: 1) new mirror switch - approx £10 - this will have to have the possibility to turn 360 degrees (on ebay the correct one has 2 small see through windows). NOTE this switch works off varying the voltage on the 4 wires so you cannot just setup a switch!! 2) New mirrors, if you live in UK/Ireland you MUST get them from EBAY UK as the angles are totally different on the US/German mirrors due to LHD. expect to pay approx £100 - I actually sold a set for £80. there are 2 options here, one which will have the frame that holds it in the door and the other that is just the mirror frame. Looking at them the second option is much more difficult to work with as you have to remove a very large clip that could be easily broken. If you go with the second option, make sure the base is included as without it the motor will have nothing to turn against. 3) some time to lay 2 wires down to the door control unit - depending on the model the actual wiring differs. If you send me your exact model I can send you the pin numbers. 4) Almost forgot, you may have to route the wires through the frame if the one you get does not have the loom attached (this is a pain in the arse - had to do it for the wires for the memory mirrors - needed 4 new ones). so go for ones with the wires attached. Viola, when you turn the knob the mirrors will fold. Note you can make them power folding (next on my list) - I have to check it out but the door module has 2 connections that are for locked and unlocked. If these supply either a pulse of constant voltage depending on the state of the car one could easily attach 2 timed relays (£15 each) that would trigger when the car is locked unlocked and do the necessary (changing the polarity to the motors). Basic electics really. Note each door requires 2 modules and you need to say 2 wires from the drivers side to the passenger side (though there could be an easier way) to trigger the relays. It must be timed as you want the motors to run for 10 seconds otherwise they will burn out - they don't autostop. If you need any more info let me know Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ied3vil Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Can you help me out with the wiring? I got switch, both mirrors installed... they don't work off the bat on a B7. The mirrors have the wiring (Actually all have full wiring even if they are not folding etc) and they go to the door module just that they don't fold when i turn the switch 180. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmccann Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Can you help me out with the wiring? I got switch, both mirrors installed... they don't work off the bat on a B7. The mirrors have the wiring (Actually all have full wiring even if they are not folding etc) and they go to the door module just that they don't fold when i turn the switch 180.Chris What window control module do you have? Some do not have the ability to fold. Send me the code - you can get this through vagcom and I will check it on Etka. Also mirrors only have the required wires for the functions they are designed to support (at least for the B6). Wiring is pins 9 and 10 so you could check the module to see if these pins are there or open it to make sure the relay is there W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Can't believe you follow all this stuff, Ian, what with having a Pug and all! All good things come to those who wait!! Shame RSmodels.net went a good few years back now, was a handy site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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