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Venice....any inputs?

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Just man the funk up :P

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I'm pleased Rivieras was a faultless meal and I almost mentioned The Metropole hotel in my very first post!

I should have said that everything involving sitting down is expensive in Venice.  I'm surprised they don't charge people for taking a crap.

Seats outside all the cafes in the square were the subject of much debate back in 1994.  I know because we arrived in the middle of it.

The cafes got sick of people taking up their seats and spending very little.  This was at a time when tourism began to boom there.  So, they introduced a minimum seat charge.  It was 10,000 lire (I think that would be about €5 when they joined the Euro in 1999).  Waiters would approach and take your order.  If your order didn't meet 10,000 lire per person (per seat), they'd add the 10,000 lire to your bill.  I had read about it the day before I went there and we'd have spent more than that anyway, because as you say there isn't anything that is cheap there.  If it is any consolation, on the subject of your €15 cup of tea, I remember paying the equivalent of £6 for a cup of coffee back in 1994.  It was good coffee, but not that good. :roflmao:

I noticed the increased tourist numbers the last time I was there and it is certainly very different to the first time.  The people I had the problems with were French and Spanish, but I think you could have a problem with lots of nationalities where courtesy is very low on their list of priorities.

I think there are hotels with stuff for sale outside and gift shops on every corner of every major city nowadays.

I was in York yesterday and they shouldn't be worrying about the river flooding next time.  They should focus on the flooded streets of coffee shops.  It is becoming ridiculous.

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It is kind of eye watering when we had 2 cups of tea, a latte and by the time they've added the service charge and cover charge, you're paying close to €60. Made me think. How much does a teabag cost? At the airport buying exchange rates today, that's close to £70:roflmao:

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They're masters of the art of putting your eyes out.

The gondoliers could solve the world financial crisis in a heartbeat.  Just empty their pockets. :roflmao:

I still love the place though.  I'm not even sure why.  It is a combination of so many things that are largely intangible.  It has an atmosphere and feel to it like nowhere else I've ever been.  

Paris and London come a close second for a weekend break, although they could also occupy weeks of time.  London has been tainted a little for me as I now spend so much bloody time there that I'm sick of the sight of it.

Cities are such personal preferences though.  For years I was told how much I'd love Vienna - and I hated it and everything about it.  Dump.

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Really? Like you I've been repeatedly told Vienna is beautiful - would love to go one day.

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Yep, as was I.

It was as dirty as any City I've ever been in, the locals were ignorant and rude, they rely on Mozart-related history and the trams (and the Bond wheel) to an excessive degree in my opinion - but it just wasn't a nice place.

I've spoken to other people who have been and loved it.  I just didn't get any of that whatsoever.  If I was to ever write a list of places I'd never go back to, it'd be one of the first on the list.

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Interesting. Fair enough.

Florence is the other place I've heard so much about.

It's our 20th Wedding anniversary in a couple years and I have tentatively earmarked a weekend away to Venice for it - although it will be in November - but was going to casually consider maybe Vienna (won't bother now at least for that occasion) or Florence,

That reminds me S3: what was the weather like??

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Weather was actually very nice all through our stay which was a bonus. Sunny on all three days throughout with no overhead clouds.

Temps were about 11 - 13 degrees during the day but dropped to about 1 in the evenings so the Ms just had a normal spring jacket (or a hoodie/gilet in my case) during the day and wrapped up warm when we went out in the evenings.+++

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On 2/17/2017 at 3:16 PM, Waylander said:

Interesting. Fair enough.

Florence is the other place I've heard so much about.

It's our 20th Wedding anniversary in a couple years and I have tentatively earmarked a weekend away to Venice for it - although it will be in November - but was going to casually consider maybe Vienna (won't bother now at least for that occasion) or Florence,

That reminds me S3: what was the weather like??

Florence is very nice, but very much like every other large Italian city, lots of narrow streets lined with designer shops, separated by the occasional square and church/cathedral, generally quite expensive but not on the same level as Venice.

 

Personally I really enjoyed Vienna, whereas I find Paris to be little more than a stinking dog shit lined crap hole full of ignorant ar$eholes! To each his own I guess.

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On 17/02/2017 at 10:48 AM, S3Bangs said:

 (Try imagine trying to explain who NNMM is to the Ms):lol:.

I think just saying "an internet weirdo" would cover it :lol:

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Yeah, an internet weirdo you meet for coffee when he's in your neck of the woods.:roflmao:

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Thanks for the comprehensive write up S3 bangs. Appreciated.

+++

I am going to read the whole thread again before we go.

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Going next Tuesday. Glad as knackered!

Everything noted from all you good people on here. Thankyou.

Also having days on train to Milan (Last Supper booked), Verona and Lake Garda (Simione).

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Love Lake Garda, Sirmione is nice although generally the other end of the lake is nicer, Riva del Garda is our usual Italian lakes destination, it's far enough away from the water park/theme parks/Rock Star restaurant and caravan parks to not get all the noise, while still only a 45 min drive to take the kids to the parks for the day, and you can hire a speedboat just down the road in Limone.

 

My best mate got married in Malcesine castle too, great day that was.

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Vienna is an utter dump. Never again.

Love florence though! Beautiful place.

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Florence is incredible love it to bits just perfect and faultless in every day. But for me Rome is just stunning and its sheer scale of the ancient, what would be a bit tourist spot in Barcelona doesn't even get on the map in Rome. Everything makes me smile and it doesn't have to cost the earth either far from it, would go back again in a heart beat. +++ 

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