patently Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Pink Floyd: "Comfortably Numb"! [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1MAC Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] I would be interested in peoples comments on the following : 1-Will this genuinely influence our car buying choice ? 2-The Government needs tax revenue to run the country, what do we object to most, the amount of tax we pay, or the way it is spent ? 3-I heard somewhere that the Government received 3 times the amount of tax it did 10 years ago (£600billion nor v £200 billion in '97), not sure if thats correct, but does anyone think a change of Government will mean genuine tax reductions ? My answers FWIW, 1-no, 2-the way they spend it, and 3-of course not. [/ QUOTE ] 1] Me personally, most likely not - things will have to get a fair bit worse yet. Generally - sadly yes I think it will to a fair degree. Most people can't see the whole picture and are quite sensitive to headline changes. 2] Mainly the way it is spent. We seem to pay a lot and an ever increasing lot but get nothing but the same old sh*te in return. I have seen very little, if anything, get better in my life and yet the tax burden has gone up by 10%-15% -- where is it going (well, I sort of know that one) 3] There might be some reductions over the medium term but probably only skirting around the edges with obvious measures. The rest can be blamed on the policies of the previous Govt (as usual). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrsaku Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 3) i would still take the risk and change the existing one. It can only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] 1- Will this genuinely influence our car buying choice ? 2- The Government needs tax revenue to run the country, what do we object to most, the amount of tax we pay, or the way it is spent ? 3- I heard somewhere that the Government received 3 times the amount of tax it did 10 years ago (£600billion nor v £200 billion in '97), not sure if thats correct, but does anyone think a change of Government will mean genuine tax reductions ? [/ QUOTE ] 1- No way!! 2- I object to both! We are taxed too much but we have to accept how it is spent 3- I would like to think so but have been roaming this planet long enough to know that any reductions would be miniscule In the words of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac "Oh, well" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] 3- I heard somewhere that the Government received 3 times the amount of tax it did 10 years ago (£600billion nor v £200 billion in '97), not sure if thats correct, but does anyone think a change of Government will mean genuine tax reductions ? [/ QUOTE ] Unfortunatly the country's finances are in such a mess that it'll take any new governement a while to sort it out, just like the Tories in 1979, But we need a goverment that supports free enterprise.. that rewards those that work hard.. not take from hard workers and give to those that don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Hear Hear. Dave for PM. (No, I mean our Dave, not necessarily that Dave ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would be interested in peoples comments on the following : 1-Will this genuinely influence our car buying choice ? 2-The Government needs tax revenue to run the country, what do we object to most, the amount of tax we pay, or the way it is spent ? 3-I heard somewhere that the Government received 3 times the amount of tax it did 10 years ago (£600billion nor v £200 billion in '97), not sure if thats correct, but does anyone think a change of Government will mean genuine tax reductions ? My answers FWIW, 1-no, 2-the way they spend it, and 3-of course not. [/ QUOTE ] 1) no 2) Both - they take it from the wrong people and spend it in the wrong places. 3) A different gov will tax us differently to start with, then this will start again with the usual suspects - with no real thought going into decisions. [/ QUOTE ] Good Answer Cruiser but I'd like to think that we may get a bit better value for money for our taxes than we do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3_Scot Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] I often wonder why protests don't kick off anymore. [/ QUOTE ] everyone's online so not in the streets. look here: http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/whatsmycartax/ to find out your car tax till 2010 on most cars (06---) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 When I have to pay 400+ quid in 2009, I shall be driving MORE to get value for money. Yes I will pay for for petrol, but I do not give a feck. This is tax too far... I will also drive down and park outside Downing street and rev the feck out of my car, backfiring on overrun and buring carbon. This in outragous decision to make it retrospective to cars reg. in 2001. Will it change my habbits, will it feck, I'll drive more! Oh, and sign here http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/UNFAIR-VED/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] I purchased an outside patio heater last year when he put the tax up and I might just get another one this year, gas is relativey cheap and they keep the garden nice and warm [/ QUOTE ] Im having a plastic bottle bonfire this week, fancy roasting some carrier bags?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair_A3 Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] I purchased an outside patio heater last year when he put the tax up and I might just get another one this year, gas is relativey cheap and they keep the garden nice and warm [/ QUOTE ] I have three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I purchased an outside patio heater last year when he put the tax up and I might just get another one this year, gas is relativey cheap and they keep the garden nice and warm [/ QUOTE ] I have three [/ QUOTE ] Have you seen the patio tax on those for 2009? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Just done a bit of maths... If you end up paying 100GBP more in road fund. Say you do 12K miles a year Say your car does 25mpg So 12,000 / 25 = 480 gallons of Fuel. 480 x 4.54609 = 2182.1232L of fuel. Now, how much is that 100GBP tax rise as if it was added to the price of Petrol.....? 100GBP / 2182.123L of fuel = 0.045826927 GBP per litre increase...... So he did not put 2p on a litre of fuel, for us, Tyresmokers, he as put 4.58p per liter! Now my car does 20MPG, but I only do about 6K PA, but it's 265g/km so I'll be paying £440 pa so a rise of 230quid. I'll be paying 16.8pence per litre extra! Feck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 ...Best not to depress yourself thinking about it, Simon. As long as you've got enough dosh in your pocket, just enjoy driving it . Don't let the barstards grind you down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Well my motor will cost me £90 extra I think but my better halves will save her £10 so not to bad really. Really enjoying driving it at the moment and a little more than a tank of fuel difference in costs isn't going get me to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 It seem the rough figure is that the motorist will be adding about £1.7Bn extra into the treasury from 2010 about £57Bn in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Say your car does 25mpg [/ QUOTE ] Right now, I'd be worried that I had a leaky fuel tank. By the end of next week, I'd be downright delighted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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