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Ran the same 2.5TDI in my Audi Allroad and it is a fantastic engine. No really! AmD also remapped it and the amount of torque it produced was ridiculous! I have always preferred petrol, but compared to the 2.7 Turbo V6 that was the alternative in the Allroad which would have produced 18 or 19mpg on a *very* good day, the 2.5TDI won hands down.

Given the weight of the Touareg and the fact that it has the aerodynamics of a small house, I would shy away from the 3.2 V6, even though this is the same engine as is in my Golf R32. Resale values of the petrol Touaregs are a lot lower and the mpg will go through the floor if you drive "enthusiastically".

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Thinking about a 3.2 Phaeton as they have plummetted into my price range, but on a test drive was disappointed by only 20mpg of mixed driving. It was fully loaded with comfort seats, massage etc which I guess adds even more weight. What does everyone else manage from their Phaeton's or Treg's?

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Hey dak999!

The Phaeton you drove, was theat the 4Motion one? Some of the 3.2's are FWD and some are 4Motion.

Also, did you reset the MPG computer?

AND with a test drive, you are more likely to put your foot dow........and not care about mpg.........

I tihink they go from £25K now, (before haggling). Haggle your heart off and get £3K off the price.......

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cant wait until the new V6 TDI arrives here!

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Too right, I've swapped my 3.2 V6 (which, by the way, I prefer over the 2.5 TDi, hands down) for a new 3.0 V6 TDi and the difference is phenomenal.

On paper, the performance may look similar, but in real life the new TDi feels much livelier and happy to pull in any gear (hated how the 3.2 was always down shifting).

And i now get just over 400 miles to a tank... Which, if diesel wasn't so damned expensive all of a sudden, would be a great thing...

So my vote in the 3.2 vs 2.5 definitely goes to the 3.2 (smooth, refined, more low-speed get up and go), but sorry guys, the 3.0 V6 beats them both.

But before I sound too smug, let's not forget that the real daddy is the V10.... (had one for three weeks as a loaner, bloody fantastic)

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Going up the M40 late on Monday evening, an A4 overtook me doing about 100. Came up behind him in a contraflow and then floored it past him (I run a Stage 4 R32). Blow me if he didn't keep fairly close behind me. We both stopped at Warwick services and I had to take a close look at the badge on the back of the guy's totally standard car.

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What a totally awesome engine. Gets my vote over the 2.5 TDI. When VW stick this engine in the new Passat Estate, then it's on my list for replacing my wife's 1.9 TDI. Will give the Touareg and Phaeton some serious grunt as well. 169144-ok.gif

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When VW stick this engine in the new Passat Estate, then it's on my list for replacing my wife's 1.9 TDI.+++

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Brother has the Passat 2.5 TDi Estate. Called stealer to find out when the new 3.0 TDi Estate would be available to order and was promptly advised this engine would not be available on the Estate!!(Only on Audi A4 and A6). Not a happy boy!! Is this true or has anyone got a different update?? ooo.gif

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When VW stick this engine in the new Passat Estate, then it's on my list for replacing my wife's 1.9 TDI.+++

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Brother has the Passat 2.5 TDi Estate. Called stealer to find out when the new 3.0 TDi Estate would be available to order and was promptly advised this engine would not be available on the Estate!!(Only on Audi A4 and A6). Not a happy boy!! Is this true or has anyone got a different update?? ooo.gif

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Can't comment on that, but I do know that the Estate will be getting a 170ps version of the 2.0TDi, as opposed to the 140ps version currently doing the rounds!

The 3.0 TDi would be awesome, but 170ps from a 2.0l TDi isn't too shabby and will no doubt haul the Passat along quite happily.

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The 2.5 diesel engine in the Touareg is not the V6 version found in Audis. Its actually a straight five engine (similar to the T5 Caravelle - say that quietly).

Although the latest 3.0 diesel version is similar to the one used in Audi A6 and A8.

The 3.2 v6 petrol is derived from the Golf R32 engine. Theres going to be a 3.6 ltr version of this engine shortly.

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Yes, I recently drove a 'R5' Touareg 2.5 TDI whilst in the UK. It was rubbish (sorry). It didnt even get that great mileage, and was really struggling at times going uphill with 4 people plus luggage.

Definately go for the 3.2 petrol if they are cheap, or by the sounds of things the 3.0 TDI V6 which has had fantastic reviews (see above!) Or go the whole hog and pick up a V8, thats a great car! 169144-ok.gif

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I'm surprised by the comment about the 2.5TDI in the Touareg Dan, unless it was the 163bhp version - totally underpowered to pull a 2.5 tonne monster around. I used to run a 180 bhp 2.5 TDI Allroad, which used to go like stink with 4 up, dogs, roof box et al., even before it was remapped by AmD 169144-ok.gif

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I'm surprised by the comment about the 2.5TDI in the Touareg Dan, unless it was the 163bhp version - totally underpowered to pull a 2.5 tonne monster around. I used to run a 180 bhp 2.5 TDI Allroad, which used to go like stink with 4 up, dogs, roof box et al., even before it was remapped by AmD 169144-ok.gif

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I think it was 174hp on the particular vehicle, but it was underpowered. I love my Touareg and rate the car very highly overall, but you have a complex 4x4 and as you said 2.5 tonnes of car to shift and the 5 cylinder was constantly struggling with a fully loaded vehicle. On the motorway it was fine, but around the hills of Wales it just refused to go and the autobox just couldnt get it right. I had to manualy shift it to get it to work properly.

Loved the 5 cylinder in the Land Rover though... but not a luxury car!

I am also a big fan of the VAG diesel engines, and love the 2.5 TDI in the A4! Differnet beast altogether. I cant wait to get my hands on a 3.0TDI this Christmas! 169144-ok.gif

Even with the 3.2 I have, its still underpowered, but you adjust your driving style. Its rather like an oil tanker, takes a while to get going, takes ages to stop etc!

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