NewNiceMrMe Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I've just noticed that the fronts on my A4 (TDi 130 Sport Avant) are, ermmm, on the limit. I'm going to go out and get a new pair fitted this afternoon (it might explain the recent dismal performance from the ESP which has been worse than ever!). The car is shod with PZero Rosso's all round. The front's are 235/45 ZR 17's. Should I stick with PZero's on the front too or is there a better tyre out there that TSN-er's advocate? Normally I'd keep a full set of the same tyres, but if it'll improve my traction I'm not bothered about mixing. Factors - wear is unimportant, same as price, it doesn't matter because I'll not be paying for them. So what's the best I can get or have I already got them on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike12 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Just got Michelin Pilot Sports for mine last week. I can't rate them highly enough. Others will point you towards Goodyear Eagle F1s which are also a good tyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Like Mick said MrMe, Pilot Sports of F1 GSD3's. I know some who have P Zero's but considering the problems you are having with them maybe better to try something else. F1's tend to be cheaper than Pilot Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupramax Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Goodyears are excellent for traction, had them on my old Leon Cupra R and they dealt with 270hp admirably... The Leon had PZero Rosso's on as factory fit and the Goodyears were light years better wet & dry and wore better as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apreading Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Another vote for the Goodyear GSD3s here - superb tyre in all weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 When the OE fit rubbish wore out on my TDi 130 Sport Avant I replaced them with Yokohama AVS Sport. I'd had good experience with the Yokohama's before, and it was the same on the TDi - excellent wet grip, much less intervention from the ESP (my TDi had been chipped), about the same life as the OE tyres. The only downside was a slight increase in road noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_C Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Another vote for the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3s. I'd be very surprised if you still experience traction problems once those are fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted July 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Ok, so those recommending the Eagle F1 GSD's....you don't see any problems with mixing them with the PZero Rosso's that are on the rear? (They've covered about 8,000 miles incidentally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 You'll just have a grippier front I would imagine than the rear, but that ain't such a bad thing considering what you were complaining about with the ESP. Remember though that F1's need a bit of running in as they are quite slippery initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted July 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Well that plan didn't work. Out of stock, out of stock and out of stock. Getting it done on Monday now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 If you are back home this weekend MrMe try either Foxhunters behind the Ice Rink at Whitley Bay or Barry's Tyres in Gateshead Arches. If you give them a ring today before lunch they'll usually have them in stock for Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted July 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 [ QUOTE ] If you are back home this weekend MrMe try either Foxhunters behind the Ice Rink at Whitley Bay or Barry's Tyres in Gateshead Arches. If you give them a ring today before lunch they'll usually have them in stock for Saturday. [/ QUOTE ] What, and drive the A4 on a weekend! No way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 If you take it South of the water to Barry's tyres you'll have the poshest car there. He may even roll out a red carpet for you and offer you a digestive with your coffee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted July 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Oh I wasn't trying to demean the car in that sense, it's a nice car (regardless of its faults). No, what I meant was that I drive it enough during the week and the last I want to do is chuck smoke around on a weekend too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Another vote for the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3s. I'd be very surprised if you still experience traction problems once those are fitted. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I'd totally agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Ok, an update on this. I've now had a pair of Goodyear GSD3's on the front for about 2,000 miles. I'm sure they're a very good tyre on some vehicles, but they haven't improved my A4 Syndrome much. They definately grip better in the dry than the Pirelli's did, and to that end they add a little more confidence to the dire ESP system. However, not much. In the wet though...they're as bad as ever. In fact, I think they might actually be worse than the Pirelli's in wet conditions! I still have Pirelli's (non-directional) on the back and that might not be helping, but as they're not on the same axle it really shouldn't make too much difference. I find that accelerating from a standing start is much the same as the Pirelli's, but in corners they just don't inspire confidence at all. So, whilst I'm sure they're a very good tyre for most, they don't make up for the shocking ESP system on this bloody car. I'd love to post positive news, I really would - but I fear no tyre manufacturers product is going to counter the excrement that is a FWD TDi Audi ESP system. Whatever you do, no matter what it costs - if you're going to buy one....BUY QUATTRO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergy Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I Know exactly waht you mean, the bloody ESP is never off my FWD. Just had a call from BMW and they have a RWD 330d Coupe in for me to try. Apparently in USA and Germany though they were launched with X Drive. I am going to think long and hard as I always vowed 4WD after winter before last SLK was a slippery little fish in the wet and snow. Think Ill hang on for B8 S4 or B7 if I get itchy feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBM Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Dunlop Sports 01's on my avant - great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDiAvant Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I found Michelin Pilot Sport 2, makes a big difference on the A4. The ESP light does come on but that depends on how hard you pushed the car in the wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 If you'd just learn how to drive the fecking thing properly, it just wouldn't be a problem. It's a torquey FWD diesel car, the throttle pedal does have more than two settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] If you'd just learn how to drive the fecking thing properly, it just wouldn't be a problem. It's a torquey FWD diesel car, the throttle pedal does have more than two settings [/ QUOTE ] To be fair to MrMe though; the torque on the B6 1.9TDi 130bhp is quite 'spikey' Especially run-in ones. Although I would've thought he'd be able to adjust to it by now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 My old TDi was certainly "run in" with 155k on it mate, and it was remapped. I managed, and I'm supposedly a lunatic driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted October 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nowt to do with it. I've said it before. I've driven cars with a lot more power through the front wheels, and just as much torque, and never had this issue. It's Audi. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Chris, if I still have my TD cab by the Scotland Roadtrip (which I might do, as selling it now is proving a baaaad idea ) I will let you take it out for a spin, different car I know, but I dont get any problems with the ESP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted October 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Ah, but it's a B7. As I understand it, they do suffer less from the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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