P_G Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Saw this on their website today, front disks, calipers and pads only, £1600+ Group buy anyone? Or is there a better deal to be had? Nelson? Did you not offer a group buy on RS4 disks and calipers a while back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Make sure you've got 19" wheels though. They won't fit on 18's apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted August 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Odd, because if you have a look at AMD's website they have a cut away diagram of the RS4 disk and caliper behind the S4 Avus wheel! Numpty's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rottenbend Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 I noticed that this afternoon P_G_. The expense of the brakes AND 19" wheels will probably be too much for me right now. Might just go ahead and paint my calipers black and get some RS decals... No one will ever know...not Still if they can fit them behind 18" Avus (which I doubt) I might be tempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Odd, because if you have a look at AMD's website they have a cut away diagram of the RS4 disk and caliper behind the S4 Avus wheel! Numpty's! [/ QUOTE ] I'm quite sure the graphic is meant to be for guidance purposes only!! Does your reference to "numpty's" lead one to assume you have purchased wears or service from them before and not been entirely satisfied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 That would be correct, Spotec centre caps to be precise. Not cheap either and when they arrived one is super shiney and new and the other one looks like it could be used of the Cillit Bang Advert instead of the penny test. Brand new my arse! That and the diagram that leads one to believe you can get RS4 disks and calipers behind Avus alloys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Make sure you've got 19" wheels though. They won't fit on 18's apparently. [/ QUOTE ] They do fit behind 18" wheels. A popular install on B5 S4's and RS4's. DSGWAGEN on ebay can do a setup for a good price and all his parts come with 2 year warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 That's odd because I'm sure that Scotty looked into it and found that they wouldn't fit his 18" wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I'm not saying they will fit behind all 18" wheels but the RS6 caliper which is basicaly the same as the RS4 fits when used with RS4 disc's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Cant you opt for 18" wheels on the RS4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Cant you opt for 18" wheels on the RS4? [/ QUOTE ] That's true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] That's odd because I'm sure that Scotty looked into it and found that they wouldn't fit his 18" wheels. [/ QUOTE ] I seem to remember when Nelson was potentially flogging these as a group buy that he also said they wouldn't fit behind standard S4 alloys. However the RS4 disks are 365mm (14.5"), the caliper must only be another 1-1.5" so it would be a tight fit but possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 They won't fit behind standard B5 S4 wheels which are 17's... [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] That's odd because I'm sure that Scotty looked into it and found that they wouldn't fit his 18" wheels. [/ QUOTE ] I seem to remember when Nelson was potentially flogging these as a group buy that he also said they wouldn't fit behind standard S4 alloys. However the RS4 disks are 365mm (14.5"), the caliper must only be another 1-1.5" so it would be a tight fit but possible? [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 It was the B6 variant we were asking about in relation the the RS4 disk upgrade, but who knows? Might have to drop AMD a line and ask. I wonder whether the master cylinder is the same in S4 and Rs4 or whether the S4 can cope with a six pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 They are 8 pot on the RS4 and RS6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny_boon Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nope they are still 8 pot!!! Sixpots are something entirely different..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny_boon Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 will this kit fit normal B6? does anyone know if you do infact need 19" wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Best you call AMD, they will no doubt explain that in order to fit any 365mm big brakes you will need pre requisite 19 inch alloys with associated inside clearences as this particular RS4 brake kit will not AFAIK fit within standard 18 inch AVUS alloys......NOTE: The OEM B6 A4 master cylinder will not cater for the 8 pot increased demand, however the B6 S4 master cylinder is the same as the B7 RS4 and will therefore be compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Best you call AMD, they will no doubt explain that in order to fit any 365mm big brakes you will need pre requisite 19 inch alloys with associated inside clearences as this particular RS4 brake kit will not AFAIK fit within standard 18 inch AVUS alloys......additionally, the standard B6 A4 master cylinder will not cater for the 8 pot increased demand, however the B6 S4 master cylinder is the same as the B7 RS4 and will therfore be compatible [/ QUOTE ] I know for a fact that one of the guys on RS246.com has RS6 calipers and RS6 discs fitted behind B6 18" Avus wheels. The calipers are mounted on special brackets to be able to use the RS6 discs. This may or may not give him more clearance (I think the RS6 discs are more inset) but also gives the advantage of using the better RS6 disc. The new RS4 uses the same disc on the left or right of the car so are not properly directional. Give MRC tuning a call as they have done this conversion many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 "(I think the RS6 discs are more inset) " Twas my understanding too when I was considering the big brakes. The clearence quoted at the time was of a negligable measurement, around 3mm to 4 mm, however being that the RS4 big brake fitting on the B6 S4 was untried at the time of my enquiries the experts were quoting the need for big brake accomodating wheels because the RS4 calipers do indeed sit prouder than the RS6's (fronts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I've also heard that the RS6 caliper is stronger than the one used on the RS4 even though they do look very similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Additionally too you would require longer brake lines to fit the RS4's (fronts, which are actually modelled on Brembo's). You will undoubtedly require custom 19" alloys to fit the 365mm rotors up front as they are way too big for the 18" OEM's....The Audizine forums are full of guidelines and pitfalls on this very subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted August 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I'll ask when I am down there on the 9th of September but I think I may go back to my original plan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I'll ask when I am down there on the 9th of September but I think I may go back to my original plan.... [/ QUOTE ] You might want to keep shtum or wear a disguise P_G?? Odd, because if you have a look at AMD's website they have a cut away diagram of the RS4 disk and caliper behind the S4 Avus wheel! Numpty's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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