JamesB Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Erm, does it really matter that much if what is a Q car to one person is not a Q car to another? Plenty of my friends and family had no idea that my RS6 was anything other than a normal Audi estate and some actually dismissed the fact that it could be fast. Yet show it to pretty much anyone on TSN and they'd know what it was straight away and consider it as subtle as Russell Brand. So to the former, yes, a Q car; to the latter - no way. I'm not convinced it's worth arguing about the definition, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Quite correct. Of course, if you ask most people whether they think your car is a Q car, they'd say, "What's a Q car?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacake Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I think you are overestimating what the average Joe knows about cars. Most people have a hard enough time remembering if their car is a petrol or a diesel let alone what the WRX is. [/ QUOTE ] That was my point. To me, it's whether the car looks sporty, not the exact type or arrangement of exhaust pipes or whether the door mirrors are chrome. Therefore, no turbo Impreza is a Q car, because they look fast. VW Corrado (any model): not a Q car. VW Vento VR6: definitely a Q car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Passat W8 must have been a q car Scorpio Cosworth another Problem with current cars, is performance cars look like performance cars (bling spoilers, air dam bumpers, alloys and overall styling). What about feckus ST in non asbo colours, looks very plain jane, so does that qualify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se5aScott Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 How about merc r500 and ford s-max 2.5? I think both get to 60 in about 7sec, which is pretty good for an mpv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 They're Q buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacake Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Passat W8 must have been a q car Scorpio Cosworth another Problem with current cars, is performance cars look like performance cars (bling spoilers, air dam bumpers, alloys and overall styling). [/ QUOTE ] Passat W8 and Scorpio Cosworth are good examples. Volvo 850 T5 would be another. Saab 9-5 Aero. Mercedes 190 Cosworth. Or the handful of VW minibuses that had Porsche flat-6 engines fitted in the 1980s, and could do 140mph... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Passat W8 and Scorpio Cosworth are good examples. Volvo 850 T5 would be another. Saab 9-5 Aero. Mercedes 190 Cosworth. [/ QUOTE ] I dont think the T5 could be counted as a Q car. Everyone knew they were fast. Its just you never expected the OAPs driving them to be going over 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 The Passat W8 isnt really that fast, just about a Q car I suppose. I think the modern Q cars tend to be diesels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoogy Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Do Q cars have to handle properly though? which doscounts the heavier front engined TDis..... otherwise I'd nominate my v6 3.0 turbo diesel'd Signum... lowered and stiffened... and tuned to have 210BHP and 320lb/ft... yes it chucks soot, but what a shove! maybe the best Q car would be de-badged BMW/Audi...there are SO many of the things on the roads, no-one takes any notice of them anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Do Q cars have to handle properly though? [/ QUOTE ] not particularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I think the modern Q cars tend to be diesels. [/ QUOTE ] Audijohn's 4.2 TDI for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hows about one of these:- 400 bhp, 5.4 sec 0-60 from about £12k for a 2002, was £42k new. Now about £55k. Pull the badges, change the wheels to plain S type one's and it's surely a contender for a high Q car rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4_sat Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Not really. Jus take the rear badge off and the lesser models can get this bodykit and the wheels on them from the dealer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think the modern Q cars tend to be diesels. [/ QUOTE ] Audijohn's 4.2 TDI for example? [/ QUOTE ] Now thers a car Greef it scares the sh*t out of me sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4_sat Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 the phaeton is probably a good Qcar. Take the badges off and people will think it's a big passat. Mind you, it'll be a 200mph passat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Hows about one of these:- 400 bhp, 5.4 sec 0-60 from about £12k for a 2002, was £42k new. Now about £55k. Pull the badges, change the wheels to plain S type one's and it's surely a contender for a high Q car rating [/ QUOTE ] I think if thats an Stype "R" it's 5.0 secs dead too 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Finally, there’s the bonkers, screaming-mad, supercharged 400bhp Type R. Whether you use the ‘J’ gate or not, this will howl its way to sixty in just 5.3 seconds and on to around 175 if you can find a way to disconnect the limiter. But it’s far from leery or uncouth to drive. Even on the wettest July day in history with mud all over the country roads and the traction control switched off it was still easily manageable. I actually had to try quite hard to get the tail out and it came back again very obediently. Yet of all the new S Types, surprisingly enough, this was the nicest to drive slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sufu Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Finally, there’s the bonkers, screaming-mad, supercharged 400bhp Type R. Whether you use the ‘J’ gate or not, this will howl its way to sixty in just 5.3 seconds and on to around 175 if you can find a way to disconnect the limiter. But it’s far from leery or uncouth to drive. Even on the wettest July day in history with mud all over the country roads and the traction control switched off it was still easily manageable. I actually had to try quite hard to get the tail out and it came back again very obediently. Yet of all the new S Types, surprisingly enough, this was the nicest to drive slowly. [/ QUOTE ] I saw one of these the other day, and thought someone had just stuck Civic Type R badges on the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetboy Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Volvo T5 estate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Depends. Ones with blue lights don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetboy Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 You'd be surprised how many people don't see them flashing in their rear view mirror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Of course, if you ask most people whether they think your car is a Q car, they'd say, "What's a Q car?". [/ QUOTE ] True. Booking a customer today, the car he said was a '9-3' came back from the dvla as a '2004 Saab 9-3 Aero HOT 210.' Ian_C: 'Ahhh, the full Aero: A bit of a Q car.' Customer: 'What's a Q car?' Ian_C: 'Er, kind of stealth factor.' Customer: 'Ah yes, it doesn't look all that special, but has some go!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadW Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 406 Saloon/Estate but the V6 versions. Bit quicker than your average Taxi I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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