Luke Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The very idea that Alonso could find himself without a drive next season is ludicrous. He is easily the best driver on the circuit right now. Easily. [/ QUOTE ] Yes Garcon, FA is really showing LH the way to go at the moment. He has him worked out. I wonder if FA isn't giving him to much info these days. If you were a team owner who would you want to keep for next year if you could only choose one? FA may have tried to feck him over but ditching a possible triple WC, feck no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The very idea that Alonso could find himself without a drive next season is ludicrous. He is easily the best driver on the circuit right now. Easily. [/ QUOTE ] precisely. And I am also with "if LH does it, it is magnificent driving..." There are so few outstanding drivers out there that the double world champion [who got his spurs in Shuey's time] will be snapped up don't you worry about that. Let's not forget that the showdown with RD happened as a result of LH being a petulant little at Hungary and then an angry exchange spiralled to what it became. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Alonso is a twat in my book.. what a way to treat your team principle... [/ QUOTE ] as opposed to being given instructions by him on the radio and telling him "f**k you", you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 mmmm, not good reading http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62548 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 What concerns me now is that we will be fed the transcript of the hearing piecemeal, by a media more than happy to be selective and apply their own spin. So I'm going to try to ignore the various stories that will come out over the next few days and weeks... because I really can't be arsed reading all 115 pages of the full transcript myself. (It is available on t'net if you're interested, though even that is censored in part I believe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] mmmm, not good reading http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62548 [/ QUOTE ] not all that damning of FA though: they had a big row, he later apologised and retracted it. What is confusing though is that from what RD says here he contacted Max who pretty implied let it be. So how did it get to the FIA formally then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Know what you mean. Lets see if LH can turn it around and actually start to win again. Next circuits are not familiar to him i believe. Can you imagine if something does happen to FA's car during a race when he's in front of LH? Oh my God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Lets be honest, nobody thought that LH would get up to full speed in his first season. It was expected that he would be FA's wingman so to speak. To even get close to being on level terms with him is an achievement in itself IMO. As for the comments made earlier about FA at the last GP and the way he drove. I can't see where anybody has mentioned that in this thread at all, why raise it I don't know. It was very hard driving certainly but not stupidly so, I'm sure LH would have done the same and FA would have complained just as much. Its going to be a VERY interesting end to the season, or at least I hope it is. There have been some really processional racing at times sprinkled with some stunner's, lets hope there are a trio of stunners to go and may the best driver win and the FIA stay at home and just let them all bloody race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 As good a driver Alonso is the guy is a tool. Sabotage his skinny ass I say. Some say that if he finds out MC will be in big trouble. Well it is up to him to prove it. All the data is beamed back to the pits so if one parameter is a bit to high. Turn a blind eye. Mechanical failure is mechanical failure. I think they will be using new engines for the next race. So there is plenty of opportunity to install a component that is near to its life limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I can't see where anybody has mentioned that in this thread at all, why raise it I don't know. It was very hard driving certainly but not stupidly so, [/ QUOTE ] My viewpoint on 'that move' on the first bend was that 'IF' FA had taken a different more competitive race line (and not focused on preventing LH from getting past him) he 'may' have been in 2nd place as they exited. Mr Alonso is dead and buried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminTDI Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I would like to see Button go to Mclaren, the only other I can think of that could fill the spot is dare I say it, Webber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron13 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Alonso does not seem much of a sportsman -trying to force his own teamate off the track. I would have more than harsh words with that stroker boy! [/ QUOTE ] Eh – this will be the one then CarMad !! Also not sure why you think it is not pertinent seeing as FA seems to be the figure of hate at the moment. Don’t forget LH was the first to blink in this going by the team book bit when he refused to give FA his spot at qualifying as per the team’s rotation. FA then got his own back and was punished by FIA. Sorry but I just don’t but the whole LH euphoria, this is a guy that after 6 months in the top flight is banging on about media intrusion and wants to move abroad, get with it LH, this media intrusion was courted by yourself and will make you stupidly rich. Live with it, you can’t have it both ways mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron13 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] As good a driver Alonso is the guy is a tool. Sabotage his skinny ass I say. Some say that if he finds out MC will be in big trouble. Well it is up to him to prove it. All the data is beamed back to the pits so if one parameter is a bit to high. Turn a blind eye. Mechanical failure is mechanical failure. I think they will be using new engines for the next race. So there is plenty of opportunity to install a component that is near to its life limit. [/ QUOTE ] So you would like LH to win by double default??? Getting away with using dodgy data and not penalising the drivers and then sabotaging his team mate!! That’s the true sporting way eh???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Sorry but I just don’t but the whole LH euphoria, this is a guy that after 6 months in the top flight is banging on about media intrusion and wants to move abroad, get with it LH, this media intrusion was courted by yourself and will make you stupidly rich. Live with it, you can’t have it both ways mate. [/ QUOTE ] ....You are misquoting LH - In the TV interview I saw he said that he didn't want to move abroad but that too much intrusion on the street would force him to consider it. It's not euphoria but merely recognition of his talent and skill. I guess that there are nevertheless fans who get all patriotic and rate him just because he's British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron13 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 With respect RR is that not the same thing? The threat as he does not like the intrusion. He is not naive surely to think he will only get photographed on the track. Yes I know but I do get annoyed when those types are blind to everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 ....Sort of the same thing - I took your words "banging on" to be stronger than perhaps I felt fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] As good a driver Alonso is the guy is a tool. Sabotage his skinny ass I say. Some say that if he finds out MC will be in big trouble. Well it is up to him to prove it. All the data is beamed back to the pits so if one parameter is a bit to high. Turn a blind eye. Mechanical failure is mechanical failure. I think they will be using new engines for the next race. So there is plenty of opportunity to install a component that is near to its life limit. [/ QUOTE ] So you would like LH to win by double default??? Getting away with using dodgy data and not penalising the drivers and then sabotaging his team mate!! That’s the true sporting way eh???? [/ QUOTE ] Whoa there tiger. Where did I mention I want LH to win? You have interpreted what I wrote incorrectly. Your definitely on the forward offensive today. Judging by your slant at LH your not one of his admirers...! AFAIC both MC drivers should have had points docked because they have gained an advantage through stolen data. Then it would just leave the road clear for a Ferrari shoot out to the end. And that is good my books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I don't agree. I think penalty was against McLaren, and they have been fined and stripped of all points.. not something that will go down well with their sponsors. The drivers just drive what they have been given. Saying that, from Gonzo's e-mails with De la Rosa they seem to be up to their necks in it, so maybe he should have had some points deducted. As far as I know Hamilton is in the clear. But i also think Mosley did a deal with the drivers that gave them immunity to punishment if they spilt the beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] But i also think Mosley did a deal with the drivers that gave them immunity to punishment if they spilt the beans. [/ QUOTE ] Rightly or wrongly, that's certainly what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 ...."Gonzo" - Perfect description imo. He was okay when he won his first championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Alonso is the evil one.... I bet button will be going cheap next year.... they'll get their fine money back on the wages saving alone. An all British team to take on the Frogs and Italians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Alonso is the evil one.... I bet button will be going cheap next year.... they'll get their fine money back on the wages saving alone. An all British team to take on the Frogs and Italians [/ QUOTE ] Destined to fail then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Alonso is the evil one.... I bet button will be going cheap next year.... they'll get their fine money back on the wages saving alone. An all British team to take on the Frogs and Italians [/ QUOTE ] Destined to fail then. [/ QUOTE ] Dunno about that. Button is a very smooth driver. Still think he could do well in decent kit. It would be sooooo funny if Alonso did not get a drive next year (but I am sure he will end up somewhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Ah but they will not be driving a Ferrari next year. So there chances are greatly reduced But he is a smooth driver but I am not sure he has the required aggression, concentration or determination to succeed. Admittedly this years Honda is a pig but previous incarnations have been more competitive and he did not utilised those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted September 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Destined to fail then. [/ QUOTE ] That's why Williams and McLaren are two of the most successful F1 teams. But I still don't get why we can do engineering excellence like this, but still produce totally sh*t cars that get bought and sold left right and centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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