Riz Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 ....History doesn't always mean of major national/international importance.I thought that TSN was born out of Audi-esque ashes, not the .:R32. Yup it started with the Audi S3.Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yup it started with the Audi S3. Riz ....And here I was, thinking that it all started with a kiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 ....And here I was, thinking that it all started with a kiss. Still though..... we wont really know how the V6 R32`s image will change over the years....... they might be forgotten Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 .... Hey Riz, are you the dude who used to have a very fine original Mini? If so, I met you once at the Windsor meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) ....Hey Riz, are you the dude who used to have a very fine original Mini? If so, I met you once at the Windsor meet. Yup that was me, was some time back now, I remember everybody pretty well...... a few of us had a mad dash up the M25 afterwards I was drooling over the cars...... there were a few R32`s there too... Daz`s RS4 cab, 2 Monaro`s, Porsche boxster... RS6 too...... Yes had the Mini, Its gone to a better home now as the scuttle was rusting like feck! It was a cracking little car and I`m glad I bought it......... Riz Edited November 13, 2009 by Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Yup it started with the Audi S3.Riz Yes you are correct. the s3 forum was by far the busiest back at the start. when the r32 arrived it quickly became the forum of choise. Ahh remember the days.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 with regards to the R, the spy pics look the same to me. VW have not moved this car on from the mk 5. People complain 911's look the same but they are a bit of a cult. VW dosent have much in its favor and i worry with all hatches looking the same they are not playing this right. who makes the best looking hatches today? who makes the best cooking hatches?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiablorubino Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I still can't believe how expensive the R is looking. I have specced up on the VW website and my preferred (admittedly high) spec comes out at £37,400 !!! Doesn't stop me fancying one though... although i'm tied between lots of cars and mine isn't due for replacement until September 2010 (60 plate). Also spoke to a dealer about the R last week, they have been told they can order 4 and have so far ordered 2 (presumably demos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Well looking at your signature - I cannot imagine that the new R will come even vaguely close to being the same bang for buck as the Lupo was. I've said in the other thread I could never justify myself the cost of the new R, in my mind £35k+ and Golf does not equate, I just couldnt bring myself to part with the money. Now a a New Lupo with an R version, well that might be another storey..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiablorubino Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I do miss the little Loop. Last seen driving down my road on it's way to a new life in Devon :-( (GU02 LHD if anyone has seen it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
News_Stig Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Autocar have now driven the Golf R, and here is their article and verdict:- What is it? According to VW the new £28,930 Golf R is “the most powerful and fastest accelerating Golf ever produced.” And seeing as it has 267bhp from its 2.0-litre turbocharged engine, and can hit 62mph in just 5.7sec (or 5.5sec with the optional DSG transmission fitted), it’s hard to argue against VW’s claims. Not that you’d ever realise just how potent the Golf R is merely by looking at it. Given how much poke it has and how quick it undeniably is, this has to be one of the subtlest genuine high performance hatchbacks there has ever been. Apart from its twin exhausts, mildly restyled black door mirrors, LED running lights and tiny rear boot spoiler, you’d simply not pick this car as anything special were it to pass you in the high street. In reality, a GTi on 19in wheels probably looks meaner in the raw, despite the R’s tinted rear windows and its almost too-subtle badging front and rear. What does make a difference visually is the reduced ride height. Thanks to the R’s slightly stiffer suspension and new ride height it sits some 25mm nearer to the ground than normal. While this doesn’t quite provide the R with the full Cal-look low rider appearance, it does makes it appear more purposeful than normal if you look closely enough. Mechanically the big difference is the addition of a new version of VW’s 4-Motion all-wheel-drive system. Apart from allowing the R to handle the extra power and torque that has been squeezed from the venerable 2.0-litre VW engine (it’s actually the same lump as you’ll fid in an Audi S3), the 4WD system endows the R with more on-road decorum in virtually every way, even if it does ad a few unwanted kilos to the kerbweight. What’s it like? Look at the raw performance figures and you might expect this to be VW’s answer to hot rods such as the Focus RS and Mugen Civic Type R. But in reality the R is nothing of the sort. It’s very rapid, yes, but it’s also a smooth, grown up, refined kind of hot hatch, very much in the same vein as the old six cylinder R32 but, sadly, without the creamy soundtrack to go with it. What the R is categorically not is a B-road monster. It rides extremely well for such a rapid hot hatch, and the noise emitted from its big-ish 225/40 18in tyres is unusually well suppressed. On a motorway it doesn’t feel a whole lot less refined than a Passat, or, indeed, a more regular member of the Golf family. Is it wooden in feel, as so many quick Golf have been in the past? No, but neither is it what you’d call cutting edge dynamically. VW’s aim with this car is to attract the kind of customer who likes the wolf-in-sheeps clothing approach, hence the reason the ride is so well resolved and the engine/exhaust note are so reserved. This same restrained, well thought out but slightly plain approach also applies to the interior, which boasts a great pair of front seats and the odd R logo to distinguish it above other Golf, but not much else. The whole thing is quite beautifully put together, however, and this does lend the R an unusually mature feel, not just inside but on the road – and in the showroom as well. Should I buy one? It depends what sort of person you are, and what sort of hot hatch you like to drive. If you’re a Focus RS kind of bloke (or bloke-ess) then the R is unlikely to appeal. But if you like a more subtle approach and don’t want the rest of the world to know how fast your car really is, the R could be right up your street. You will need to like its subtle approach an awful lot, however, because at nigh-on £29k before you have added the must-have DSG option, it costs significantly more than its obvious competition, most of which is more exciting to drive. As ever, you pays your money… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hmmmmm. Thats not a particularly great review is it (imo) Makes it sound like VW have gone back to the old V6 4motion/VR6 softly softly approach a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hmmmmm. Makes it sound like VW have gone back to the old V6 4motion/VR6 softly softly approach a bit. It's not making me rush out to buy one either - it is feckin' expensive when you see that a used RS4, fully loaded, can vertually now be bought for the same price !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 It's not making me rush out to buy one either - it is feckin' expensive when you see that a used RS4, fully loaded, can vertually now be bought for the same price !! So the general concensus seems, but the R would be considerably cheaper to run/maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 So the general concensus seems, but the R would be considerably cheaper to run/maintain. No issue at all with that comment Jon - but running costs aside, the R is looking too expensive (with a few essential options) up against all the alternatives out there and taking a quick glance at Pistonheads, there are fair few S3's available. I know many of you like the new 4-pot R better, against the existing mKV R32, given the ability to tune it to over 300bhp but I'd just rather have the V6 soundtrack, day to day personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 There is no replacement for displacement........ so what if it is the fastest Golf to date..... I`ve still got my old EVO car mags and the first review of the original R32 was really positive, everybody raved about it when it came out.... the buzz was so good that Volkswagen had to get more into the UK, it went down a storm. Somehow I doubt the new Golf R will be as "big", its still a good car and it will sell but for £30+ surely you would expect that it would be a little more than just a "fast golf"? I`m reserving judgement as its not fair to write it off just yet....... will wait and see how it is when its out, perhaps in person it will look better than pictures..... Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N3WOB Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I'm more optimistic about the mark 6 - definately glass half full One thing's for sure, we won't have the bonanza we did with the mark 5 with vw discounts...but if the new model has the x factor, then more will be happier to pay the tariff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I'm more optimistic about the mark 6 - definately glass half full. The suggestion is that they will be a rare car on UK roads in 2010. If I'm being told fact, stealers will only get an allocation of 4 to 5 R's next year so I suspect it'll be mid-February until we'll get any kind of test drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I think we'll see the new R being a prized possession personally, albeit the price matches other more powerful, prestigious marques. The newest, most powerful "ultimate" Golf as it's been paraded as, is surely going to fare well but if dealer allocations are low, then prices will hold and they'll become a prized rarity, especially among the Golf fanatics. What Golf hasn't fared well? Perhaps the first £30k+ one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 What Golf hasn't fared well? Perhaps the first £30k+ one... That said - a 5-Door MkV, with DSG, Leather Buckets, Sat-Nav etc. etc. from the Options List was a £30k+ car. Am I right in thinking that the Mk 6 R Golf will have an 'old' 4-Pot 2.0T engine though, and not a new VAG incarnation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Am I right in thinking that the Mk 6 R Golf will have an 'old' 4-Pot 2.0T engine though, and not a new VAG incarnation? From what I've gathered, it's a lighter version of the 2.0T, but I could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsko Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Is the shortage a deliberate shortage? By that I mean, are VW keeping numbers artificially low in the UK (or more simply still across all Europe via production) so that prospective buyers are less likely to balk at the extraordinary price tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Is the shortage a deliberate shortage? By that I mean, are VW keeping numbers artificially low in the UK (or more simply still across all Europe via production) so that prospective buyers are less likely to balk at the extraordinary price tag? Maybe or perhaps they are selling like hotcakes? :confused:Volkswagen have in the past on many occasions said something will be limited etc and have ended up importing more to meet demand. Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Latest EVO magazine has a first test of the R. They like it. Alot. (It's still waaaaay too expensive though. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsko Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Got a scanner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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