CarMad Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Fingers crossed he makes and has a full recovery. It seems he might have gone under the back of the unit moving Sutils car, horrible if that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It seems he might have gone under the back of the unit moving Sutils car, horrible if that is the case. That we know (posted it earlier along with links to the pictures). The FIA has posted a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah I was hoping that part of the car went under but he missed it and went into the tyre wall still a major accident but hopefully less of an impact to hitting the unit itself. Fingers firmly crossed for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Ooh, that's not good. Fingers crossed for him. That kind of thing scares the crap out of me if I think about it, and we're about three times as tall and a third of the speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Hearing better things and that Jules is breathing unassisted. There are some pics turning up on the web that show just how bad an accident it was. The roll hoop is totally missing, looks like he went under the vehicle and was at 218mph when the crash started. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Those pictures where he's in the car having his head supported (1) are quite shocking, he was mm away from being decapitated, thank goodness there weren't any workers there. Not sure were you got 218mph from (Daily Fail?), even in the dry it's only taken at 135mph / 217kph. In the wet that curve was being taken at 111mph / 180 kph according to Nico Hulkenberg, no telemetry has been released yet but a 50G impact being banded about. Kimi's suffered a 47G impact in a crash at Silverstone earlier this year. This incident is quite similar to the Maria Di Villota accident in 2012. Some of the people at Marussia probably have an eerie flashback moment to that. Update: BBC reporting he is out of surgery: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29499545 Edited October 5, 2014 by Andy_Bangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Sorry, kph Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Sorry, kph Andy. Let you off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 They had a McNish replay of his accident at 130R and a 60, nearly 70G impact. Not quite sure how he survived that one either. Compared to other circuits, this is one old style, scary bastard of a track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Was the hoop removed by the crash or the rescue workers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) The removal truck. He went under it. Edited October 5, 2014 by Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Removed the other posts for you. Not much news as to how he is, apparently there was a view he was breathing by himself after the operation but that doesn't seem to be the case. Lets hope he pulls through hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-bmw Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Thanks CM, oh.... I had heard he was also! Fingers & everything crossed & hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Thanks and let's hope that this is one of these cases where no news, is good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Did anyone else think it was a bit strange how long it took the commentary team to work out it was Jules in trouble rather than Adrian? I guess it just shows that when a Marussia vanishes off the timing screens nobody notices. Hope he pulls through, never nice to see the dark side of a sport we all love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Not really, The commentary team only have FIA camera feeds and lap timming screen to go by. There were waved double yellows already on that section of the track so there won't have been another alert and there was no camera footage as everyone was following the leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Still, they missed that Jules had dropped off the timing screen when everyone else was showing at 'PIT" - the FOM feed seemed to know something was up as, in the space of a few minutes, they cut several times to the shot of concerned merchanics in the Marussia garage - a garage that normally gets virtually zero attention... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Totally agree it was strange. I knew what had happened before I watched it and you could see something else was up and the pit shots also said a lot. I'm sure other country commentary teams would have picked it up quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Sky picked it up almost straight away despite the FOM feed being confusing. The director obviously chose not to show the accident in repeat ( footage does exist apparently ) for sensitivity reasons. I have to say the post race coverage by the Sky team under difficult circumstances was excellent. Simon Lazenby, who has come in for criticism in the past, was spot on in his tone. Keeping everything crossed for Jules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Sky saw Sutil walking around, so they jumped to the conclusion that it must have been a marshal. But then they got a call from one of their reporters whom I believe must have been near the site of the crash, who saw a Marussia. From the TV screens it's totally understandable they did not see it. The director obviously chose not to show the accident in repeat ( footage does exist apparently ) for sensitivity reasons. This seems to be standard practice, and in good taste, for sports broadcasters for example both Kimi's and Rob Collard's crashes at Silverstone weren't replayed over and over again till they knew the drivers were okay. Unlike Marco Simoncelli accident which was repeated several times. Edited October 6, 2014 by Andy_Bangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 They knew Jules had gone off at the same point hence their initial call of oh it's a Marshal once the Medical car was on track. This is a logical shout given the circumstances. Respect to Adrian. He stayed at the scene whilst the medical team were assisting Jules. Then behaved with great composure once back in the paddock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 If none of us had known beforehand, would we have really thought "Oh, there must be a Marussia tucked behind there". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Update: According to Skysports Contrary to some reports, he is not breathing unaided. "We're not getting any official updates from the hospital but I understand that Jules is in a very critical condition, still fighting for his life, and I can clear up a couple of pieces of misinformation which have been picked up by the French media and a couple of outlets in the UK," Sky Sports News HQ's Craig Slater reported at 6am UK Time on Monday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 It was strange at the time watching on the BBC, they didn't really grasp that another drive had gone off at all. The feed showed concerned mechanics in the Marussia garage but they didn't mentioned it (I've not gone back to check). It was only really after the race was stopped did they join the dots. I can't help thinking this isn't going to end well no matter how positive I want to feel that he will make a full recovery. Incidents like Maria had in the testing show how fragile we really are especially when our head is subject to some blunt trauma or sudden deceleration. I'm unfortunate enough to have witnessed a crash at Oulton Park with a very young Formula Ford driver tragically died going head on into a barrier at far lower speeds to F1; but the barrier wasn't protected and he was going a fair speed, the other drives escaped un-injured during the same incident. Fingers still crossed and hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Having now seen the video its really sad to see that although they were waving double yellows at the start of it, they had changed to green flags well before Sutils car and the JCB had finished their work and were out of the way. The impact was huge, lifting the back of the JCB clear off the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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