Pincher Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Say it like you see it Mac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Yes well my choice... i`ll live with it. And my parents was still my home and always had a place there.... the apartment was a quick buck! simple..... the real property was unavailable at the time, will be available in about 5 years approx, will have deposit down on it though to secure the purchase! Thought I would share my excitement on what I thought was a "car forum" but it seems people look too much into home vs car, I always had a home at my parents to begin with....not much wrong with it. It`s not just the car but I will be able to relax more and do less overtime, build a social life too I dont like the feeling of being in debt when my job isnt feeling right..... Well nobody knows the problems with my work etc and how I feel...... I suppose posting like the way I did would generate alot of negative comments but why wouldnt it, everybody thinks money money money these days..... to me being happy is most important..... Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 A car will never make you happy. Nor a big house, nor huge surpluses of liquid assets. You need to get a grip, work out what you really want from life, and get on with it. And no-one will ever love you unless you love yourself. At present, you come across as pretty pathetic. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] A car will never make you happy. Nor a big house, nor huge surpluses of liquid assets. You need to get a grip, work out what you really want from life, and get on with it. And no-one will ever love you unless you love yourself. At present, you come across as pretty pathetic. Sorry. [/ QUOTE ]Well I was happier when I had my R32 than I am now and that is the honest truth..... Dont be sorry, the wonders of a online community, freedom of speech. Well its seems for some strange reason people are bothered about my choice.... and I personally dont have the time and paitence to explain my reasonings in depth, im getting a RS4, either you like it or dont! I could have quite easily said im getting a RS4 and left it at that, not bothered telling anybody im selling my apartment to pay for it etc.... but im a down to earth fella and thought would share this.... but probably wasnt a need now it seems. I`m chilled out and am only 25, lots of life left..... I know its all good advise about keeping on the property ladder but whats the point in growing old and then getting a car later on in life I dont wait around, when I want something really, I go out and get it.... I wanted a apartment and got it, had some nice cars before too.... been there and done that.... life goes on, its not the end of the world! There is more to life than money...... and yes my future is alittle secure but thats not the reason Ive made this choice..... Ive got another property lined up anyway... but not yet... If I cant discuss things about my cars etc on this site, a so called car community then whats the point...... I will call it a day and leave! Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I dont wait around, when I want something really, I go out and get it [/ QUOTE ] Mate, anyone can buy a car. Takes time/strength and determination to get yourself the things you really want though - e.g. happiness/love and contentment. [ QUOTE ] If I cant discuss things about my cars etc on this site, a so called car community then whats the point...... I will call it a day and leave [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I dont wait around, when I want something really, I go out and get it [/ QUOTE ] Mate, anyone can buy a car. Takes time/strength and determination to get yourself the things you really want though - e.g. happiness/love and contentment. [ QUOTE ] If I cant discuss things about my cars etc on this site, a so called car community then whats the point...... I will call it a day and leave [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] I`m sure your right, anybody can get a car.... And Ive always considered myself a good part of TSN so dont at me! Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Fine, don't listen to everyone then. What the hell would we know eh?! Enjoy the RS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Fine, don't listen to everyone then. What the hell would we know eh?! Enjoy the RS4. [/ QUOTE ] Well this is a forum..... some listen and some dont... Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Riz, have a fsking word with yourself. We have to put up with your bullshit stories about this week's flavour of your failed love life. You live your life in the wrong world mate, trust me. I suggest you save the £50,000 you'd be spending on the car and go and see a bloody good therapist. You asked for people's opinion. It sounds to me you already knew what you wanted to do (be that in your little world, or indeed the real world) so why bother asking a forum full of sensible people to give an opinion? If you're affluent enough to afford an RS4 at 25, there must be a reason for it. If you made the money yourself, and you didn't win it and you weren't given it, then well done. You must be a clever guy. A clever guy wouldn't even entertain what you're suggesting, particularly at 25. Quite frankly I'm not bothered what you do. But if I were you, I'd stick to your Astravan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Riz, have a fsking word with yourself. We have to put up with your bullshit stories about this week's flavour of your failed love life. You live your life in the wrong world mate, trust me. I suggest you save the £50,000 you'd be spending on the car and go and see a bloody good therapist. You asked for people's opinion. It sounds to me you already knew what you wanted to do (be that in your little world, or indeed the real world) so why bother asking a forum full of sensible people to give an opinion? If you're affluent enough to afford an RS4 at 25, there must be a reason for it. If you made the money yourself, and you didn't win it and you weren't given it, then well done. You must be a clever guy. A clever guy wouldn't even entertain what you're suggesting, particularly at 25. Quite frankly I'm not bothered what you do. But if I were you, I'd stick to your Astravan. [/ QUOTE ]Thank you for your kind commments. Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Riz, Are you really that bloody minded that you cannot see people are only trying to help???? I personally think that someone has put it into your head that a RS4 will make you more popular with the ladies As Ben says, fair play if you are in a position to buy a RS4 at 25, but anyone with 1/2 a brain would know that depreciation will strike and you will lose a lot! And as for you threatening to leave, ok do it, is it something about having an Astra??? Every time someone tells you a home truth you throw your toys out of the pram and leave <font color="red"> BEWARE, LOW FLYING RATTLES AND TEDDY BEARS, SOMEONE TOLD RIZ THE TRUTH </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omen666 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Why don't you pop over to RS246.com and discuss the purchase...funny I can't find anything over there! I thought it would be the best place to discuss it after all? We all have S4, RS4 and RS6's surely we would be best placed to give advise you on what you are getting into? hmmmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminTDI Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Also Riz I think something you haven't experienced yet is that material things mean very little. I know it sounds so cliche but you never truly understand this until you're with a woman you really love. If you meet someone whilst you have the RS4 that is true love, you'll realise very quickly that you've made a grave mistake and the car doesn't actually mean feck all. My advice is, screw the car, it will make you feel worse if anything, keep the flat and look for a new job. If payments are getting you down that badly sell the R32 and buy something cheaper, it should take some stress off things. I can't help thinking that you are buying this car for 'attention' purposes, not so much on here, but with women in your 'real' life. You have come across very insecure in other posts and I feel that this may be the reason why you're buying the car, I could be wrong, but that's certainly how it comes across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Riz. Interesting Thread, smells of a v v early 'mid-life crisis' but each to their own. Shark outlines my thoughts !! Nobody is having a pop by the way, there is genuine concern on the decision you may be about to make ! Just a wee spanner in the works, what are the insurance Company quoting you (at 25) for Fully Comp insurance on the RS4, given where you live in the UK?? You talk too of 'downgrading' on the work front. On average, you do know that your monthly fuel bill on an RS4 could be £200 pcm. I'm assuming you've got a secret savings account too?? I made an enquiry on estimated insurance premium for me (and I'm 37) and it's not a cheap vehicle to Insure 'me old mucka !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Riz, We all have a dream in life, some of us get to achive it and others don't. Me I'd like to have a beautiful wife, a nice house, a couple of kids maybe oh and yes couple of great cars sitting outside. Will it happen, well if I work hard enough and have a bit of luck from time to time then yes I will make it happen. But unless I'm left lots of money or have rich parents its a bloody long road to get there. But its the hard work and graft that it all requires that will make it all worth while. I'm a fairly materialistic bloke and up until the last few years have been single more often than not. But I found the love of my life and whilst I still get a nice car and spend money on gadgets I'd pretty much give it all up for my other half. Just think about things and don't rush in too quickly, thing about what you want out of life long term, no its not easy it can be stressful and down right depressing at times, but its these times that can make a person what they are. Don't give up on things. Maybe look for a new job that will give you a different outlook, or think of ways you can make more money whilst still keeping your house and lifestyle that you have. Then think about the car. A woman will want you for what you are, not for what you have got. And if she does want you only because what you have got then she isn't worth having. Cheer up mate, stick around there are a lot of people on here that are trying to help you out the best we can, petrol heads or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Riz - perhaps you missed this comment in my post : [ QUOTE ] Of course it's your decision but I'd feel I'd let you down as a "virtual mate" if I didn't let you know how I felt. [/ QUOTE ] No one's saying leave the forum. This is a discussion about cars on a car forum. Get off your box. Listen to what people have to say and then decide. If you still want to go ahead with it then fair enough. It is your decision. It doesn't matter whether the majority of us agree or disagree. I wish you luck with it. I'm not sure what you're expecting it to do for your life (turn it around, find you love etc) but I think the comedown from it will be harder than just saying no now.... but it is your decision. Good luck now stop taking pot shots at your buddies or we'll give you a slap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Having chatted to Riz last night, I get the impression that sale of his flat is prompted by the wish to reduce his financial commitments and to have a life outside of work. Whether using the capital released to buy an RS4 is sensible is something that Riz has to decide for himself. He certainly seems to regret parting with his R32. In fact, it seems that the decision has already been made - it's to be sprint blue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Is it wrong to set up a sweepstake on [1] whether he will ever take delivery [2] how long he'll keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_C Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I didn't manage to get a foothold on the property ladder until I was 29. If I had one now at 25 I sure as hell wouldn't give it up for a car - any car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4_sat Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Riz, don't sell the flat. rent it out and get yourself a B5 RS4 or E46 M3. you'll have some extra income for the car and other stuff. We used to have a flat near to the city centre in glasgow but we sold it before they built a uni about 2 minutes down the road. would have been a goldmine if we kept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Is it wrong to set up a sweepstake on [1] whether he will ever take delivery [2] how long he'll keep it. [/ QUOTE ] I'm in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollox Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I can’t help thinking that the monthly payments on a new RS4 will be equivalent or not more than a typical Sheffield mortgage. On the one hand you’ll be paying a sum towards total ownership of what (over a period of time) will be an appreciating asset and on the other hand, you’re talking about spending the same or more on an asset that will only depreciate from the day you sign for it. I know cars can put a smile on your face, but deep down, as has been said, that’s not happiness. The only way I can think that this would make sense is if you’re being supported by your parents and the £1k a month or whatever doesn’t matter. Otherwise, even on a very good salary for a 25 year old, I’d say its impossible to make a £50k RS4 work, with or without mortgage. Riz, no one’s asking you to leave, but you do have a habit of asking people for advice and then totally ignoring genuinely sincere advice from so many Tyresmokers. I know its not what you want to hear but what you’re suggesting is madness by any stretch of the imagination. I don’t think people would take the time to write out the posts that they have if they didn’t care If the R32 made you that happy, why not pick up another one? There's plenty around now and the financial commitment is peanuts compared to a new RS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Wooo chill out guys. I think you've made your opinions very clear, but its obvious Riz wants this. Let him have it! He has been on this forum longer than most people here, give him a break! Don't make him feel like he's not welcome here because of a decision. You don't have to like it but lump it. Even if we are his virtual mate and want to do what is best for him, there is a time you just have to butt out. I can personally understand where Riz is coming from, I wouldn't do it but i would be tempted. The RS4 is a great car and i'd love to get a nice second hand one in a couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N3WOB Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 There you have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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