Woppum Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 I have decided I would like a little more vocals. Maybe a slightly deeper rasp, maybe a bit louder. I dont want any race spec blah blah, just a nice sounding, nice looking (keep the quad format) pipes. I have heard of: Supersprint Miltek Who else are there and who is best for the CSL. I will post this elsewhere in order to get the most informed decision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Common guys! I only have experience of the Snitzer which I found both looked and sounded crap! I want to keep 4 pipes anyway. Chris didnt you have a super sprint on your M3? Is that the one to go for on the CSL, or the Miltek? I want to fit it ASAP now ive siked myself up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritey Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 All posts I've read about the CSL and exhausts I believe have gone for the Supersprint, if that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 They are both about the same price. I think the super sprint may - look better, however Miltek are the more reputable pipe arnt they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 The Superspints on this one always sounded pretty good... Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Not my field but isnt the supersprint 100 cell cats a popular choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP11 Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Have you tried GruppeM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 these guys are suposed to be the Dogs.. inc part no: http://www.hartge.de/html/indexuk.html i think there is a dealer in uxbridge or near there 18 46 0510 D HARTGE connecting pipe (replacement of pre-silencer) for M3 E46 in connection with: 18 46 0500 C HARTGE stainless steel rear silencer with dual oval tail pipes (middle) (incl. HARTGE lower part of rear skirt) 18 46 0400 D HARTGE stainless steel rear silencer with dual round tail pipes left and right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Call Thorney/Thornley motorsport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 First point of call is speak to Hudsons on Monday and see what they recommend. Thorney does only Miltek I think, so if I go down that route I will probably use them. Hartage is an idea, but I always got the impression they were more brand than substance (and I think are very expensive). With the R it was Miltek or nothing. It seems the choice isnt so obvious with the CSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 All sound the same going backwards through a hedge don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Have you tried GruppeM? [/ QUOTE ] Don't they do they do the really light one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 [ QUOTE ] All sound the same going backwards through a hedge don't they? [/ QUOTE ] Tell me honestly! Im never going to live that down am I!!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Have you tried GruppeM? [/ QUOTE ] Don't they do they do the really light one? [/ QUOTE ] Wow - under 5kg! I bet it makes a racket though. Anyone know someone with one? Or a picture of the car with it on? A sound clip!? I think these may be the pipes for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Its not cheap though. On the website they quote 252000Jap$'s which is £1200 + postage from Japan and then fitting! Anyone know of a Uk distributor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Well I have manged to e-mail GroupeM. Lets see if they reply... [ QUOTE ] Hi, Im interested in the system you do for the CSL. I require information on the following details: - is it much louder than stock? - Is it street/track legal? - Do you offer more than 1 variant (straight though, etc?) - Is it is a full cat system? - Do you have a warranty with the exhaust? - How much is it? - Will it be your place close to Buckingham Palace that will fit it, or will you simply distribute? (doesn’t matter either way) - What’s the lead-time - Do you have any pictures of a car with this exhaust. Sorry for all the questions, I haven’t been able to find a phone number for your company. Please reply with it enclosed, if you prefer we can talk over the phone. Many thanks, [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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N3WOB Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Wopps, check this out http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/115575.htm or this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/113228.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Wopps, check this out http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/115575.htm or this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/113228.htm [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for the link mate, but im a bit put off as they never mention a make of pipe. That system was 15kg. The GruppeM is 5kg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I've seen a few 2nd hand Gruppem's knocking about. I was thinking about one when I had mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I have had an offer for about a year old one from another forum. I want to speak to my fitter first to see how much a new one is. Id prefer a nice shiny new one. Have you heard it Ben? Much louder than stock? Look good, not too chav? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I've seen a few 2nd hand Gruppem's knocking about. I was thinking about one when I had mine [/ QUOTE ] Not thinking about Milteks for yours? Ive heard they sound incredible on the RS4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 What about going the custom made route? I'm sure you can get one made to your requirements for much less than £1200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Not heard anything but the Milltek on the CSL - drove one with a full system and it was nice. I liked the idea of the GruppeM as it is so damn light! The CSL has 100 or 200 cell cats as standard IIRC, so I'd not bother changing them personally. I'd go for the cat-back on the RS, but only the valved version which is a tad pricey at the moment. To be fair, it's quite nice stock, unlike the B5 - which was dull. Cheers Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtl Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 The CSL has 100 cell cats fitted as standard. I'd keep them if I were you, and not be tempted to for a straight through system. I've seen a video of a de-cat CSL with a Gruppe M exhaust - sounded ridiculous. Far too loud. Don't make your car sound like approaching gunfire Wopps, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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