RedRobin Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] So I assume residuals on pre 29 March 06 cars will be higher than post March cars? (of the same ilk) [/ QUOTE ] ....That's crazy if it is. How long before they realise how stupid they are and backdate it much further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] So I assume residuals on pre 29 March 06 cars will be higher than post March cars? (of the same ilk) [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. I reckon mine will have depreciated at least a grand or so overnight. First registered on 30/03/06.....having been ordered since November 2005! Now wheres the feckin justice there Gordon? You Cnut! I cant tell you how annoyed this has made me. I can afford it, but its a snide retrospective tax, that I had no idea of when I ordered the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 ....Don't let the bastards grind you down, soulboy. Lay back and listen to Marvin and rise above the bastards. [i'll be uploading a very calming song on Myspace in next 24hrs called "Eye Of The Storm"] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Or just buy pre 2001 cars with big engines like my A8 4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Welcome to the DVLA's Vehicle Licensing Online This service will be unavailable from 6pm until 9:30pm this evening to allow for updates to be made following the Chancellors budget announcement this afternoon. We apologise for any inconvenience. [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Welcome to the DVLA's Vehicle Licensing Online This service will be unavailable from 6pm until 9:30pm this evening to allow for updates to be made following the Chancellors budget announcement this afternoon. We apologise for any inconvenience. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] ....Sounds to me as if they're closing the gap where pre-budget rates would apply. Fecking bastards!!!!!!!!!! I'm not effected but I'm still angry about their attitudes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 That's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny11 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 how do i know i what band my car is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] When do the increased prices come into effect? [/ QUOTE ] From the budget report - no point to try and tax early [ QUOTE ] As with fuel duty rates, the Government today announces VED rates for this year and the next two years to further sharpen environmental signals to motorists to purchase more fuel efficient vehicles and continue to support the development of low-carbon market, including: • raising the rate for the most polluting cars (band G) to £300 in 2007-08 and £400 in 2008-09; and reducing the rate for low-carbon band B cars to £35 in 2007-08, with that rate then frozen for the subsequent two years; • raising the rates for graduated bands C-E, cars registered before 2001 and all light goods vehicles by £5 in each of the next three years; • raising the rates for graduated band F by £10 in 2007-08, then £5 in each of the subsequent two years; • in 2007-08 only, freezing the rates for motorbikes in the lower band with higher bands increasing by £1-£2; and freezing VED rates for Heavy Goods Vehicles (HGV), Special Types Vehicles, Combined Transport Vehicles and all vehicle categories that are linked to the basic goods rate;7 and • aligning the VED rates for petrol and diesel cars as the differential in nitrogen oxides and particulate matter emissions for new cars is expected to fall to close to zero once Euro V and VI emission standards become mandatory. • Changes to this year’s VED rates take effect from 22 March 2007. All changes in subsequent years take effect from licenses commencing 1 April in the respective year. [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Thanks for that OliH, saved my self a few quid there did it on line [/ QUOTE ] Even if you had 6 months tax left, like I do, it would make sense to buy another 12 months now, and then using the form from te DVLA or post office, send your old tax disc back for refund, and even then you will save £50!! I know its only £50, but like TESCO says, 'Every little helps' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigR Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Looks like the 3.0tdi v6 engine just makes it below the g-band. Engine produces 223 co2's bang g starts at 225, does it matter that its a late 06 car or as long as its below band g level?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] how do i know i what band my car is?? [/ QUOTE ] Your V5 (registered keeper) document will tell you the CO2 rating of the car. You can then use the table at http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524 to figure out how much tax you'll pay. It's all been blown a bit out of proportion, imo, as the big increase on excise duty only applies to cars over 225 g/km registered after 23rd March (i.e. this Saturday). Looking at the table on the web site, if you own a car registered between 1 March 2001 and 22 March 2007, the max you'll pay is £205 this year, so if you've got an R32 (276 g/km on my V5), then there's bugger all difference. Does it put me off buying a new RS4 after Saturday? No, not really - if I was spending £46K+ on a car, I don't think £300 in the first year then £400 next year would worry me. But then I've not got £46K+ to spare at the minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Looks like the 3.0tdi v6 engine just makes it below the g-band. Engine produces 223 co2's bang g starts at 225, does it matter that its a late 06 car or as long as its below band g level?? [/ QUOTE ] No, if it's below 225 you're in a Band F maximum, regardless of age. If it's above 225, then the older the vehicle, the better off you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] It's all been blown a bit out of proportion, imo, as the big increase on excise duty only applies to cars over 225 g/km registered after 23rd March (i.e. this Saturday). [/ QUOTE ] No its March 2006, not 2007!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I know, just realised that Just as well I didn't buy a new toy last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilp Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 A2 VED down £15, Allroad up £10 so I guess I'm £5 in credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6tas Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So I assume residuals on pre 29 March 06 cars will be higher than post March cars? (of the same ilk) [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. I reckon mine will have depreciated at least a grand or so overnight. First registered on 30/03/06.....having been ordered since November 2005! Now wheres the feckin justice there Gordon? You Cnut! I cant tell you how annoyed this has made me. I can afford it, but its a snide retrospective tax, that I had no idea of when I ordered the car. [/ QUOTE ] yep that is harsh Soulboy considering you ordered the car 5 months earlier. And you are right he is a cnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
News_Stig Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 TSN News - Full info on motoing taxes changed in the March 2007 budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisg Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's all been blown a bit out of proportion, imo, as the big increase on excise duty only applies to cars over 225 g/km registered after 23rd March (i.e. this Saturday). Looking at the table on the web site, if you own a car registered between 1 March 2001 and 22 March 2007, the max you'll pay is £205 this year, so if you've got an R32 (276 g/km on my V5), then there's bugger all difference. [/ QUOTE ] If you disregard the year.... it shows how daft this all is as my A4 S Line quattro is 228 gms -- a family car - sort of - up there with all these 4x4 gas guzzlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ....It's ridiculous! When did The Dishonourable Gentleman Brown last drive a car I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brn7y Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Yup and a bit more cash because they pollute more! [/ QUOTE ] Graduated VED for Private Vehicles (registered from March 2001) £ per year VED band ¦ CO2 (g/km) ¦ Change ¦ Alternative Fuel cars ¦ Petrol cars ¦ Diesel cars A ¦ 100 and below - £0 £0 £0 B ¦ 101 to 120 ¦ -£15/-£5/-£15 ¦£15¦ £35 ¦£35 C ¦ 121 to 150 ¦ £5/£15/£5 £95 ¦ £115 ¦ £115 D ¦ 151 to 165 ¦ £5/£15/£5 £120 ¦ £140 ¦ £140 E ¦ 166 to 185 ¦ £5/£15/£5 £145 ¦ £165 ¦ £165 F ¦ 186 to 225 ¦ £10/£15/£10 ¦ £190 ¦ £205 ¦ £205 G* ¦ 226 and above ¦ £85/£90/£85 ¦ £285 ¦ £300 ¦ £300 *for new cars registered from 23 March 2006 Not anymore, as you can see Euro V VI cars are no more polluting and will be now the same as petrol. This actually means there was no increase for diesel cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Just as well I didn't buy a new toy last year [/ QUOTE ] Whilst it is hardly an RS4, the tax on my still incredibly non-environmentally friendly weekend toy is high enough considering the tint mileage it covers. Doubling the tax from 175 to 350 and I'd have to - grudgingly - say bring on pay-per-mile. Are the government just buttering us up ready for its introduction? Ian NB. Good to know you don't pay more tax for say an A4 PD 170 quattro over a straight fwd model, just because "it's a 4x4." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Whilst it is hardly an RS4, the tax on my still incredibly non-environmentally friendly weekend toy is high enough considering the tint mileage it covers. Doubling the tax from 175 to 350 and I'd have to - grudgingly - say bring on pay-per-mile. Are the government just buttering us up ready for its introduction? [/ QUOTE ] The problem is there are more people in this country like yourself that probably think this, but it would be the worse thing to ever happen to this country. We used to be a self supporting country, and remember that is quite important as we are also an island, but as the years have gone by our government has taxed our companies higher than most other places, and taxed our fuel higher than most other place too, up until the point where we can no longer compete. So all the major comapnies, all the big products, all the things we class as essentials are now brought in from overseas, all we are left with that we can really call our own is the small independant traders that can offer something different, those that don't have to compete on a price, but offer a service. If we start introducing pence per mile that will disappear, we will only be left with the big clothes stores, flat pack furniture, processed fruit and veg from Asda, fast food chains, etc. etc. As an example we have a footwear agency, now most of the footwear and clothing industry is run by agents, guys and girls who take on 3 or 4 different brands and sell to the multiples and the independant stores. We have a 9 week period from when we get our samples to when the factory closes the order books so they can start making the product. In that 9 weeks I have to see 87 customers, they are all over East Anglia, Midlands, Wales, Lincs and S.Yorks. The only way I can get them all in is to arrive at the first appointment at 9am and try to get to another before the owner leaves for the day,this means I have absolutely no choice in leaving at 6am and setting off again at 5/6/7pm, the times when we will be charged at up to £1.30 a mile on major roads. At the moment I pay £5500 a year in fuel tax to do my mileage. We worked out that if we did half the mileage on these main roads at peak times, a quarter on minor roads but again peak times and the other quarter in the lowest band it would cost us around £30,000 a year in charges. At that point I would not be able to carry on with my job, everyone I have spoken to in my industry are the same. I have been speaking to alot of people who travel for a living and they are all saying the same thing, the guy across the road from me has a fruit and veg business with 4 shops, he said that when this charge comes he will have to close, he is not big enough to dictate to the delivery companies that he wants them to drive through the night, only Asda, Waitrose, Sainsburys have that power. You will see alot of business' disappear virtually over night, we will be left with these big stores only, who also get all their products from overseas, from the states and china, so well done this government, by taxing us so highly we are not making the world a greener place we are just giving up what little control we had left to the worlds biggest polluters!! Do you think the States and China will step back and say 'You know what? with all this power we have lets make the world a better place!' Of course not, they will just build more power stations and factories so they can keep up with the demand coming out of the UK! We need to stop taxing this country and start being competative again, give tax releif to our companies that are clean so we can start to become self supporting again and compete on a global scale. At the moment we are a fecking joke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 ....Well said, gizzE - Nail on head and a good description of the reality. (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Pay per mile will be introduced in parallel with car tax (like the Congestion Charge). They won't scrap the tax and replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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