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I believe it. From a 10 mile an hour crash, so far it has taken them the best part of a week to tot up 7k. But they haven't yet done suspension testing, exhaust testing and under body testing... god knows how they are going to Rodger me... All I know is that they WILL Rodger me!

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Well yes I suppose. I think the only thing to learn here is you should drive 'very' carefully when going in the wet after it has been very dry for a while... It was honestly like being on ice. Im not a silly driver, but it is being aware of the conditions, and obviously i wasn't. 169144-ok.gif

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Sorry to hear about your mishap. If its any concelation, I am awaiting parts from Germany to.

Was the DSC on or off at the time?

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Ummn... M-tack mode, which is somewhere in the middle. But I honestly don't think it would have been any different even if full ESP was on... There was seriously no grip. It would have only been possible to go round that corner at circa 5-8 mph without loosing some grip.

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Another lesson would be: When choosing your first RWD car, try to avoid on with carbon fibre on every corner!

Glad it was a low-speeder Wopps. I can remember convincing a friend to turn off the DSC on his 318i a couple of years ago. We ended up comically sideways at about 10mph whilst turning right at some traffic lights. Embarassing!

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Well yes I suppose. I think the only thing to learn here is you should drive 'very' carefully when going in the wet after it has been very dry for a while... It was honestly like being on ice. Im not a silly driver, but it is being aware of the conditions, and obviously i wasn't. 169144-ok.gif

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I was actually thinking of the more technical aspects e.g. putting more lock on when understeering is the opposite of what you should do. I also guess that you were decelerating so all the weight went forward loosening the rear and probably causing the massive oversteer.

It's that sort of thing where the understanding of what you should do can help you.

With a car as focussed as you have, just saying you'll be more careful won't work. You need to book yourself in for tuition 169144-ok.gif

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Well yes I suppose. I think the only thing to learn here is you should drive 'very' carefully when going in the wet after it has been very dry for a while... It was honestly like being on ice. Im not a silly driver, but it is being aware of the conditions, and obviously i wasn't. 169144-ok.gif

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I was actually thinking of the more technical aspects e.g. putting more lock on when understeering is the opposite of what you should do. I also guess that you were decelerating so all the weight went forward loosening the rear and probably causing the massive oversteer.

It's that sort of thing where the understanding of what you should do can help you.

With a car as focussed as you have, just saying you'll be more careful won't work. You need to book yourself in for tuition 169144-ok.gif

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Mate honestly I know, I wont neglect that. I know its true... 169144-ok.gif

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Well yes I suppose. I think the only thing to learn here is you should drive 'very' carefully when going in the wet after it has been very dry for a while... It was honestly like being on ice. Im not a silly driver, but it is being aware of the conditions, and obviously i wasn't. 169144-ok.gif

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I was actually thinking of the more technical aspects e.g. putting more lock on when understeering is the opposite of what you should do. I also guess that you were decelerating so all the weight went forward loosening the rear and probably causing the massive oversteer.

It's that sort of thing where the understanding of what you should do can help you.

With a car as focussed as you have, just saying you'll be more careful won't work. You need to book yourself in for tuition 169144-ok.gif

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Or get a job as a cabbie grin.gif. Thats where i learnt all my skills. Couple of thousand around town miles a week will shape you up.

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Wopps - really sorry to hear about the CSl mate as you must be understandably gutted.

Fair play for admitting to your 'off' on this site though - braver than some would be I'm sure! I certainly had many an 'OMG' moment in the 1st M Coupe I had (no traction control whatsoever) and coming from the R32 was a real eye opener as to how 'safe' AWD/4WD cars are comparitively in most circumstances. My current Coupe has DSC although it certainly won't get you out of all situations...

I'm sure the incident will only serve to make you a better driver (not meant in a patronising way) and more aware of the awesome car you've got.

Hope it get's fixed soon and I agree with Daz on the driver training (I'm certainly going to get some more!).

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sorry to hear your bad news pal, at least your okay 169144-ok.gif

theres been a few people on the s2k forum who have smashed their cars in the last week as well, rwd and wet weather dont mix smashfreakB.gif

in the s2k world, they call this spinning on s2k specific diesel yelrotflmao.gif

just think of the extra joy you will have once you have your pride and joy back after driving the PT!

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Had a reminder of how careful you've got to be at times, heading to my parents from Swindon and it starts pissing it down, less than a mile away from home I take a junction and head up hill, shift out of 1st at around 3000rpm and put my foot down in second.

Even though there isn't a great deal of torque that was enough to spin up the rears and give me a bit of heart in mouth moment as the tail broke loose crazy.gif

Been ages since I've driven in the wet and had forgotten.

Careful out there 169144-ok.gif

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